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Logging Total Time?
Does anyone know what the rules are around logging total time?
My specific example is a person who flew literally hundreds of hours before getting a license (no solo privs either). He performed all the duties of the flight including take-off, cross country navigation, landing, communications, maneuvers, etc... He was always accompanied by someone who was acting as pilot in command, but whom never touched the stick. Is it legal for him to log total time for these flights? Is there a way to log total time without logging either PIC, SIC, or Dual Received/Given? Thanks for any responses to this. z |
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You cannot log PIC unless you are rated, receiving dual, or sole manipulator
(solo or with a safety pilot).. and a whole bunch of other reasons.. Total time can be logged for the "acting PIC", again need to be rated, the safety pilot for his buddy under the IFR hood, etc. actually.. this guy in your example can log anything he wants.. it's his log book, the question is.. will the huge total time hours before he actually logs any dual received or solo time count towards anything as far as additional ratings...??? NO but if he wants to log total time in the air... even as a pax.. that's his log book.. BT "zatatime" wrote in message ... Does anyone know what the rules are around logging total time? My specific example is a person who flew literally hundreds of hours before getting a license (no solo privs either). He performed all the duties of the flight including take-off, cross country navigation, landing, communications, maneuvers, etc... He was always accompanied by someone who was acting as pilot in command, but whom never touched the stick. Is it legal for him to log total time for these flights? Is there a way to log total time without logging either PIC, SIC, or Dual Received/Given? Thanks for any responses to this. z |
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rules are around logging total time
The FAA has not defined "Total Time", so there are no rules about it. |
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BTIZ wrote:
You cannot log PIC unless you are rated, receiving dual, or sole manipulator (solo or with a safety pilot).. and a whole bunch of other reasons.. Total time can be logged for the "acting PIC", again need to be rated, the safety pilot for his buddy under the IFR hood, etc. "Receiving dual" has nothing to do with logging PIC. If you believe it does, please quote the FAR. Hilton |
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Greg Esres wrote: rules are around logging total time The FAA has not defined "Total Time", so there are no rules about it. .... except for the rules of arithmetic, a total being the sum of the various categorized flight times. As far as logging time in the OP's case, dual would come closest, but then the person giving instruction and the circumstances would have to qualify. - FChE |
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There are no regs for logging total time, only logging PIC.
Helen |
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Ther are no rules for logging Total time, only PIC and SIC.
Helen |
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"Greg Esres" wrote in message
... rules are around logging total time The FAA has not defined "Total Time", so there are no rules about it. True, but 61.1b12 does define "pilot time" as the total of various types of time. And the aeronautical experience sections of part 61 refer to "total time as a pilot", which presumably is synonymous with "pilot time". --Gary |
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i suppose the real issue would be how you intend to use that tabulation
of "total hours". near as i can tell, it wouldn't qualify for anything as far as ratings or insurance and trying to use it as such could be really bad. dan |
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 03:11:03 GMT, zatatime wrote:
Does anyone know what the rules are around logging total time? My specific example is a person who flew literally hundreds of hours before getting a license (no solo privs either). He performed all the duties of the flight including take-off, cross country navigation, landing, communications, maneuvers, etc... He was always accompanied by someone who was acting as pilot in command, but whom never touched the stick. Is it legal for him to log total time for these flights? Is there a way to log total time without logging either PIC, SIC, or Dual Received/Given? Unless the PIC was a CFI and these are logged as training flights - they cannot be logged. -Nathan |
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