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I'll be flying into Houston from Denver (APA) for about a week stay.
I'd rather not deal with the Class B at Hobby so am looking for a spot to park the 206 on the north or east side of town. Relatives live around Kirby and Hwy 59. I'd appreciate some recommendations/preferences in terms of quality of service, ease of pattern/landing, fuel/tie-down $, friendliness, drive time, etc. TIA |
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Hmm... West Houston takes the cake for quality with regards to the
service and facilities end of things (for uncontrolled fields). Plenty of room, nice FBO lobby (something you would expect at a major airport), plenty of tiedown room. I've only been in there once (never had a reason to go, nothing to eat there and its across town from me) but it strikes me as a first class place. I would pick this as #1 based on what I THINK you are looking for (No ATC, good services) Weiser, while a great lunch spot, has a narrow asphalt runway, perpetual crosswind, short final over fenced in school buses and essentially all parking is on grass, not to mention you back taxi on the grass IMMEDIATELY adjacent to the runway if its busy. Rent a cars dont appear to be readily available at Weiser but I'm sure they can be arranged with advanced notice. The folks at Windsock aviation ARE friendly, and they DO a great job, but they are limited in what they can offer facility wise. Sugarland is also an option. Its towered, but has a long runway. Its operated by the city. They have tiedowns and hangar space from what I've seen. Prompt service, but you do pay for it. Sugarland is trying to market itself as the next best thing for a corporate hub, so they have cars available and good service. I would rate this at least as good as West Houston. Unfortunately, ALL of these options are at least 20 miles from where you are wanting to go. I can appreciate not wanting to deal with the Class B for whatever reason you choose, but if you want to get in CLOSE, Hobby is only like 7 air miles from where you are wanting to be. I have flown into, out of and around the Hobby airspace for the majority of my 400 hours and will say that they have a low pressure way of dealing with little guys. There are training operations out of Hobby so they deal with students all the time. As a general rule they will pull you in from the due north direction and dogleg you onto the smaller parallel (13L -31R) or they will bring you in from the west, overhead, and cross over and enter a downwind for the parallel rwy. There are at LEAST 4 FBO's the Millionair and Raytheon are a little pricey but you get what you pay for. Fletchers is more GA/Small Guy oriented and there is another one in the SW corner of the field south of Millionair that I cant remember the name to at the moment. Good luck and have a nice trip. Dave Shawn wrote: I'll be flying into Houston from Denver (APA) for about a week stay. I'd rather not deal with the Class B at Hobby so am looking for a spot to park the 206 on the north or east side of town. Relatives live around Kirby and Hwy 59. I'd appreciate some recommendations/preferences in terms of quality of service, ease of pattern/landing, fuel/tie-down $, friendliness, drive time, etc. TIA |
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In article , Shawn wrote:
I'd appreciate some recommendations/preferences in terms of quality of service, ease of pattern/landing, fuel/tie-down $, friendliness, drive time, etc. If you want to meet some newsgroup people, at least a couple of them hang out at Weiser. It also has a great little BBQ place to recharge after a long flight. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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Shawn,
My wife and I base our plane at West Houston, and it's a very friendly privately owned airport (public use). They are staffed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, too. Access to the I-10 (Katy) freeway is easy, and you could get to 59 a number of ways from there. As it turns out, we are planning a trip from Houston To Denver (Centennial) leaving here around the end of June, so we'd love to meet you on your arrival and discuss the trip with you. You can email me at if that works for you. Enjjoy Houston. On 13 Jun 2004 16:28:16 -0700, (Shawn) wrote: I'll be flying into Houston from Denver (APA) for about a week stay. I'd rather not deal with the Class B at Hobby so am looking for a spot to park the 206 on the north or east side of town. Relatives live around Kirby and Hwy 59. I'd appreciate some recommendations/preferences in terms of quality of service, ease of pattern/landing, fuel/tie-down $, friendliness, drive time, etc. TIA |
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By the way.. Kirby and 59 is more to the South Central/ Near Southwest
part of town, not so much the North or East side. The fields you were asking about are West and Northwest about 20 miles from center of town. And, Dylan is absolutely right about what he said - the food and the hang-out factor are big plusses for Weiser. I based my comments favoring the other fields based on what appeared to be service offerings and convenience to a specific location (relatives). Dave S wrote: Hmm... West Houston takes the cake for quality with regards to the service and facilities end of things (for uncontrolled fields). Plenty of room, nice FBO lobby (something you would expect at a major airport), plenty of tiedown room. I've only been in there once (never had a reason to go, nothing to eat there and its across town from me) but it strikes me as a first class place. I would pick this as #1 based on what I THINK you are looking for (No ATC, good services) Weiser, while a great lunch spot, has a narrow asphalt runway, perpetual crosswind, short final over fenced in school buses and essentially all parking is on grass, not to mention you back taxi on the grass IMMEDIATELY adjacent to the runway if its busy. Rent a cars dont appear to be readily available at Weiser but I'm sure they can be arranged with advanced notice. The folks at Windsock aviation ARE friendly, and they DO a great job, but they are limited in what they can offer facility wise. Sugarland is also an option. Its towered, but has a long runway. Its operated by the city. They have tiedowns and hangar space from what I've seen. Prompt service, but you do pay for it. Sugarland is trying to market itself as the next best thing for a corporate hub, so they have cars available and good service. I would rate this at least as good as West Houston. Unfortunately, ALL of these options are at least 20 miles from where you are wanting to go. I can appreciate not wanting to deal with the Class B for whatever reason you choose, but if you want to get in CLOSE, Hobby is only like 7 air miles from where you are wanting to be. I have flown into, out of and around the Hobby airspace for the majority of my 400 hours and will say that they have a low pressure way of dealing with little guys. There are training operations out of Hobby so they deal with students all the time. As a general rule they will pull you in from the due north direction and dogleg you onto the smaller parallel (13L -31R) or they will bring you in from the west, overhead, and cross over and enter a downwind for the parallel rwy. There are at LEAST 4 FBO's the Millionair and Raytheon are a little pricey but you get what you pay for. Fletchers is more GA/Small Guy oriented and there is another one in the SW corner of the field south of Millionair that I cant remember the name to at the moment. Good luck and have a nice trip. Dave Shawn wrote: I'll be flying into Houston from Denver (APA) for about a week stay. I'd rather not deal with the Class B at Hobby so am looking for a spot to park the 206 on the north or east side of town. Relatives live around Kirby and Hwy 59. I'd appreciate some recommendations/preferences in terms of quality of service, ease of pattern/landing, fuel/tie-down $, friendliness, drive time, etc. TIA |
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![]() "Shawn" wrote: I'll be flying into Houston from Denver (APA) for: about a week stay. I'd rather not deal with the Class B at Hobby so am looking for a spot to park the 206 on the north or east side of town. Relatives live around Kirby and Hwy 59. EYQ is more fun but crowded: finding a place to tie down is sometimes difficult. If there's been much rain lately, you can get your airplane stuck in the mud there - ask me how I know! Great BBQ at Carl's. IWS is roomier and all paved but more expensive: I once had to pay $7 for a qt of oil there. Either one is a long way from Kirby and Hwy 59. As Dave said, HOU would be more convenient. Unlike IAH, they're quite used to handling little airplanes. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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I've gone into Houston twice (relative). Long flight from RDU in a Maule!
We used EQY because it was closest. Everything said rings true. Seems like a very homey airport, great people, barbecue, FBO. The runway is narrow and the area around it congested. Parking is tight and totally arbitrary (I parked on a hard stand next to the runway and fuel both times - I'm guessing that the locals know better). Talked to a friend who took a Navajo in there - I wouldn't. Rain could completely screw the deal. We flew over to Hobby one night to visit friends on our way home once. From ATC to the FBO (forget which one), everyone was great. After screwing up a tightly vectored IFR approach, I appreciated ATC's patience and being given hangar space for no/or tiedown cost was much appreciated (I don't know where the tiedown rope is.... might be easier to just roll you in the hangar..., need a ride?) That experience along with others convinced us to generally fly into the closest airport whatever it is. Most big city airports and 2nd airports are great and secure. We only avoid a handful. Rule of thumb - If it's less than a top 10 city, it's worth investigating the major airport if it's handy to your destination - Pgh, Cleveland, Ft Lauderdale, Baltimore, Charlotte, Houston Hobby, etc. It's a great resource - use it! _ "Shawn" wrote in message om... I'll be flying into Houston from Denver (APA) for about a week stay. I'd rather not deal with the Class B at Hobby so am looking for a spot to park the 206 on the north or east side of town. Relatives live around Kirby and Hwy 59. I'd appreciate some recommendations/preferences in terms of quality of service, ease of pattern/landing, fuel/tie-down $, friendliness, drive time, etc. TIA |
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I second the "closest airport" approach.. Unless its LaGuardia, LAX,
O'Hare or JFK, chances are its workable and not too inconvenient in small aircraft. I've even taken a cessna into IAH once (wasnt for kicks either, bonifide reason to land there). When I went to Osh 2 years ago, our overnight stop was at STL/Lambert Field. VFR. 2 "low time" private pilots. I can respect "not wanting to hassle with ATC" though, as my flying buddy is still not up to dealing with them from a comfort standpoint. Dave Maule Driver wrote: I've gone into Houston twice (relative). Long flight from RDU in a Maule! We used EQY because it was closest. Everything said rings true. Seems like a very homey airport, great people, barbecue, FBO. The runway is narrow and the area around it congested. Parking is tight and totally arbitrary (I parked on a hard stand next to the runway and fuel both times - I'm guessing that the locals know better). Talked to a friend who took a Navajo in there - I wouldn't. Rain could completely screw the deal. We flew over to Hobby one night to visit friends on our way home once. From ATC to the FBO (forget which one), everyone was great. After screwing up a tightly vectored IFR approach, I appreciated ATC's patience and being given hangar space for no/or tiedown cost was much appreciated (I don't know where the tiedown rope is.... might be easier to just roll you in the hangar..., need a ride?) That experience along with others convinced us to generally fly into the closest airport whatever it is. Most big city airports and 2nd airports are great and secure. We only avoid a handful. Rule of thumb - If it's less than a top 10 city, it's worth investigating the major airport if it's handy to your destination - Pgh, Cleveland, Ft Lauderdale, Baltimore, Charlotte, Houston Hobby, etc. It's a great resource - use it! _ "Shawn" wrote in message om... I'll be flying into Houston from Denver (APA) for about a week stay. I'd rather not deal with the Class B at Hobby so am looking for a spot to park the 206 on the north or east side of town. Relatives live around Kirby and Hwy 59. I'd appreciate some recommendations/preferences in terms of quality of service, ease of pattern/landing, fuel/tie-down $, friendliness, drive time, etc. TIA |
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![]() "Maule Driver" wrote: Rule of thumb - If it's less than a top 10 city, it's worth investigating the major airport if it's handy to your destination - Pgh, Cleveland, Ft Lauderdale, Baltimore, Charlotte, Houston Hobby, etc. ?? What's a "top 10 city?" -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Top 10 in population. Real rough cut at trying to indicate where I would
avoid using the primary airport. I know census figures get a little weird due to where the boundaries are drawn. but a quick search shows: 1 New York city/1 NY 8,008,278 7,322,564 685,714 9.4 2 Los Angeles city CA 3,694,820 3,485,398 209,422 6.0 3 Chicago city IL 2,896,016 2,783,726 112,290 4.0 4 Houston city TX 1,953,631 1,630,553 323,078 19.8 5 Philadelphia city/2 PA 1,517,550 1,585,577 -68,027 -4.3 6 Phoenix city AZ 1,321,045 983,403 337,642 34.3 7 San Diego city CA 1,223,400 1,110,549 112,851 10.2 8 Dallas city TX 1,188,580 1,006,877 181,703 18.0 9 San Antonio city TX 1,144,646 935,933 208,713 22.3 10 Detroit city MI 951,270 1,027,974 -76,704 -7.5 11 San Jose city CA 894,943 782,248 112,695 14.4 12 Indianapolis city IN 791,926 741,952 49,974 6.7 13 San Francisco city/3 CA 776,733 723,959 52,774 7.3 14 Jacksonville city FL 735,617 635,230 100,387 15.8 15 Columbus city OH 711,470 632,910 Kinda' works. I'd avoid HartsfieldAtlanta but have no experience. "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "Maule Driver" wrote: Rule of thumb - If it's less than a top 10 city, it's worth investigating the major airport if it's handy to your destination - Pgh, Cleveland, Ft Lauderdale, Baltimore, Charlotte, Houston Hobby, etc. ?? What's a "top 10 city?" -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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