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P39 elevator & aileron construction?
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Chris Wells wrote: I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this the way they were built? Yup. The P-51 also had a fabric-covered rudder; early-model Corsairs had a fair amount of fabric on the wings, too. |
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P39 elevator & aileron construction?
Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind...
Terry "Chris Wells" wrote in message ... I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this the way they were built? -- Chris Wells |
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P39 elevator & aileron construction?
Orval Fairbairn writes:
I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this the way they were built? Yup. The P-51 also had a fabric-covered rudder; early-model Corsairs had a fair amount of fabric on the wings, too. Interesting. I seem to recall reading in Douglas Bader's book how they jumped the queue to get the more effective aluminum rudder/ailerons on their aircraft by flying to the factory for the instalation. A year+ later, the bill arrived and he suggested past squadron leaders as the ones to ask; one was dead, another a POW, etc.. -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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P39 elevator & aileron construction?
And the DC-3.
"Terry" wrote in message ink.net... Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind... Terry "Chris Wells" wrote in message ... I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this the way they were built? -- Chris Wells -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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P39 elevator & aileron construction?
"Juan Jimenez" wrote in
: And the DC-3. "Terry" wrote in message ink.net... Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind... Terry "Chris Wells" wrote in message ... I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this the way they were built? Chris Wells Yep, my aunt sewed fabric for the planes coming out of the Grumman plant in NY during WWII. |
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P39 elevator & aileron construction?
I think they used fabric to eliminate control surface flutter, the
aft-of-hinge mass being less. I wonder what they used for dope. Nitrate was common but very flammable, maybe not great on a warplane. I don't think butyrite was around yet. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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P39 elevator & aileron construction?
Ron Hardin wrote:
I think they used fabric to eliminate control surface flutter, the aft-of-hinge mass being less. Delay the onset of flutter, to be pedantic about it. Lacking a solid unerstanding and good computer models, they just made the control surfaces as light as possible and hoped for the best. Michael |
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P39 elevator & aileron construction?
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Ron Hardin wrote: I think they used fabric to eliminate control surface flutter, the aft-of-hinge mass being less. I wonder what they used for dope. Nitrate was common but very flammable, maybe not great on a warplane. I don't think butyrite was around yet. Yes -- they used nitrate dope -- just like the Hindenburg! Acetate dope came in after the war; butyrate a little later, then cellulose acetate butyrate (CAB). CAB was the standard until Stits, etc. came up with their products, but on Dacron, they still used nitrate dope to get adhesion to the fabric. |
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Good flying fiction?
Take a look at these books, Great author if your nice he will personalize
(sign them) them for ya and give you a great deal $$$! These books are Very entertaining for the independent non-institutionalized thinker's out there! So if you don't mind a little foul language some grammar errors and really good stories worth supporting a fellow pilot and author! http://www.spikefly.com/crop.php http://www.spikefly.com/ferry_pilot.php "Chris Wells" wrote in message ... I've been looking for some good flying stories. A friend recommended "The Reluctant Messiah", which I've yet to find. Can someone recommend more, preferably written by a pilot & for pilots? -- Chris Wells |
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Good flying fiction?
On Jan 30, 5:47 am, "NW_Pilot"
wrote: Take a look at these books, Great author if your nice he will personalize (sign them) them for ya and give you a great deal $$$! These books are Very entertaining for the independent non-institutionalized thinker's out there! So if you don't mind a little foul language some grammar errors and really good stories worth supporting a fellow pilot and author! http://www.spikefly.com/crop.php http://www.spikefly.com/ferry_pilot.php "Chris Wells" wrote in message ... I've been looking for some good flying stories. A friend recommended "The Reluctant Messiah", which I've yet to find. Can someone recommend more, preferably written by a pilot & for pilots? -- Chris Wells I have a web page with a list of aviation books I've read: http://www.netlabs.net/~richieb/books.html I haven't updated it in a while, but you may find it helpful .....richie |
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