Navigation strategy on a short flight

"george" wrote in message
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On Jul 9, 1:34 pm, "Peter Dohm" wrote:

What I was trying to say was that I had been about to ask:
"Where in Hell is that?"
and that, now, I know where Hell is...


Well I've lived in the US and Europe and I can tell you that there are
worse places than here.

But I think the rating question has been answered

Well, perhaps I overdid it for the sake of humor; but I am curoius:
What rating is required for night flying to be unrestricted, and how might
that rating complare to the PPL and Instrument ratings here in the USA?

Peter

On Jul 10, 11:18*am, "Peter Dohm" wrote:
"george" wrote in message

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On Jul 9, 1:34 pm, "Peter Dohm" wrote:
*What I was trying to say was that I had been about to ask:
*"Where in Hell is that?"
*and that, now, I know where Hell is...

Well I've lived in the US and Europe and I can tell you that there are
worse places than here.

But I think the rating question has been answered

Well, perhaps I overdid it for the sake of humor; but I am curoius:
What rating is required for night flying to be unrestricted, and how might
that rating complare to the PPL and Instrument ratings here in the USA?

Yup
Pretty much an Instrument Rating does it.
The night flying rating here is pretty restricted and I thought at the
time not worth doing..

writes:

I repeat my question. What quality control is done in MSFS compared
to the real world?`

Many of the developers were pilots and had flying experience, as I recall.
This is also true of many add-on developers.

Hi,

In article ,
Peter wrote:
Well, perhaps I overdid it for the sake of humor; but I am curoius:
What rating is required for night flying to be unrestricted, and how might
that rating complare to the PPL and Instrument ratings here in the USA?

In the UK, the PPL doesn't automatically confer privileges to fly at night.
An extra 'Night Qualification' is required to do this. This basically
consists of five hours of flight, including a required number of solo
takeoffs and landings (5 I think) and a dual navigation flight. You can do
this during the training for the PPL, in which case the Night hours also
count towards the minimum hours for the PPL.

As far as I'm aware, there are no restrictions on flying at night, apart
from the fact that you have to be flying IFR in VMC (i.e. not cloud). You're
also not allowed in controlled airspace without a Special VFR clearance.

The information on Wikipedia appears to be correct, but the official source
will be LASORS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_flight_in_the_UK

Andy

On Jul 10, 1:07*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
I repeat my question. *What quality control is done in MSFS compared
to the real world?`

Many of the developers were pilots and had flying experience, as I recall..
This is also true of many add-on developers.

Ohhh, so no uniform quality control is in place?

How do YOU know with your real world experiences whether MSFS is
comparable to the real world of flying with regards to quality?

I can answer this question, can you???

"Andy Hawkins" wrote in message
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Hi,

In article ,
Peter wrote:
Well, perhaps I overdid it for the sake of humor; but I am curoius:
What rating is required for night flying to be unrestricted, and how
might
that rating complare to the PPL and Instrument ratings here in the USA?

In the UK, the PPL doesn't automatically confer privileges to fly at
night.
An extra 'Night Qualification' is required to do this. This basically
consists of five hours of flight, including a required number of solo
takeoffs and landings (5 I think) and a dual navigation flight. You can do
this during the training for the PPL, in which case the Night hours also
count towards the minimum hours for the PPL.

As far as I'm aware, there are no restrictions on flying at night, apart
from the fact that you have to be flying IFR in VMC (i.e. not cloud).
You're
also not allowed in controlled airspace without a Special VFR clearance.

The information on Wikipedia appears to be correct, but the official
source
will be LASORS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_flight_in_the_UK

Andy

I took a quite look and it appears that the UK regulations on night flying
are similar to the US regulations in philosophy although not in detail.

The New Zealand regs look vaguely similar to the Republic of the Bahamas,
even though the relative area of land compared to water is far greater in
New Zealand. Essentially, my recollection is that night is IFR in the
Bahamas--although I have no recollection of whether night IFR requires
multiple engines.

Peter

And what do you call "controlled airspace" in the UK?
In the US this includes Class E, which outside of a few remote areas means all
airspace above 1200AGL quite generally. If your "controlled airspace" is as
widespread, are the night VFR clearances generally easily given, or is it hit
and miss?

Does the UK require you to file a flight plan for night VFR?



In article ,
says...


Hi,

In article ,
Peter wrote:
Well, perhaps I overdid it for the sake of humor; but I am curoius:
What rating is required for night flying to be unrestricted, and how might
that rating complare to the PPL and Instrument ratings here in the USA?

In the UK, the PPL doesn't automatically confer privileges to fly at night.
An extra 'Night Qualification' is required to do this. This basically
consists of five hours of flight, including a required number of solo
takeoffs and landings (5 I think) and a dual navigation flight. You can do
this during the training for the PPL, in which case the Night hours also
count towards the minimum hours for the PPL.

As far as I'm aware, there are no restrictions on flying at night, apart
from the fact that you have to be flying IFR in VMC (i.e. not cloud). You're
also not allowed in controlled airspace without a Special VFR clearance.

The information on Wikipedia appears to be correct, but the official source
will be LASORS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_flight_in_the_UK

Andy

Hi,

In article ,
wrote:
And what do you call "controlled airspace" in the UK?
In the US this includes Class E, which outside of a few remote areas means all
airspace above 1200AGL quite generally. If your "controlled airspace" is as
widespread, are the night VFR clearances generally easily given, or is it hit
and miss?

Anything except class G. Most of the airspace in the uk is either A, D or G.
I think there's the odd bit of class C around but not much.

I've got no personal knowledge of how easy it'd be to get a clearance as I
don't have the NQ (yet). However, there's plenty of Class G around so you
can get too and from anywhere really without too much of a diversion from a
direct flight path.

Does the UK require you to file a flight plan for night VFR?

Can't say for certain (again, I don't have an NQ), but I'm fairly sure the
answer is 'No'.

Andy