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Anyone take an ICOM on a commercial flight?
What are the odds I can get away with taking my ICOM radio and
listening to the cockpit? |
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Anyone take an ICOM on a commercial flight?
"es330td" wrote in message ... What are the odds I can get away with taking my ICOM radio and listening to the cockpit? Well, you didn't say what kind of ICOM. It is probably not on the approved electronics list (but you know that). These days, there are so many consumer electronics goodies in the cabin that there is no way the crew can keep track. A fellow I work with actually got away with operating his ham 2-meter portable radio on at least one flight. Needless to say: Transmitting on the air bands from inside the passenger cabin would be a very dumb idea. Finding and following the correct radio channel would be a problem. Vaughn |
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es330td wrote in
: On Jan 30, 9:49*pm, "Vaughn Simon" wrote: "es330td" wrote in message news:03787d5e-672b-4070-99c5-eb3ed21e8aa3 @j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com ... What are the odds I can get away with taking my ICOM radio and listening to the cockpit? * *Well, you didn't say what kind of ICOM. *It is probably not on th e approved electronics list (but you know that). *These days, there are so many con sumer electronics goodies in the cabin that there is no way the crew can keep tr ack. A fellow I work with actually got away with operating his ham 2-meter port able radio on at least one flight. *Needless to say: Transmitting on the air bands from inside the passenger cabin would be a very dumb idea. * *Finding and following the correct radio channel would be a problem. Vaughn - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's an IC-A6, btw. I wouldn't DARE transmit. I don't even transmit when I'm in my car when nobody could catch me. In this case I'll be sitting in 1st class about 10 feet from the pilots. I would be clear enough that the pilot would have to know it was someone on board. It shouldn't be too tough to do. I know the departure frequencies of my airport and my flight number. As long as I can listen while we are holding short I should be able to find the right one. Once I have that I just have to listen for frequency changes. I do that myself when flying so doing it with them shouldn't be any different. I just realized I'm going to have to get it through security. I doubt they are going to let me take it on board. I can't see why not. You could stand a chance of losing it, but I doubt they would know what it was. You wouldn't believe the crap I've brought through security.... Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
erent. I just realized I'm going to have to get it through security. I doubt they are going to let me take it on board. I can't see why not. You could stand a chance of losing it, but I doubt they would know what it was. You wouldn't believe the crap I've brought through security.... When flying commercial several times carrying my flight bag, including radio, headset etc. I've had no problem with security. |
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kontiki wrote in news:Y_hoj.3018$Sa1.2642
@news02.roc.ny: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: erent. I just realized I'm going to have to get it through security. I doubt they are going to let me take it on board. I can't see why not. You could stand a chance of losing it, but I doubt they would know what it was. You wouldn't believe the crap I've brought through security.... When flying commercial several times carrying my flight bag, including radio, headset etc. I've had no problem with security. Yeah, when I have to deadhead somewhere as pax I usually carry my headset in my carry on (in case my bag doesn't make it I can still fly) Pre 9-11, a long time ago, I carried a Very pistol and a giant hunting knife through. I just forgot I had 'em. My favorite story regards a friend of mine who was a military chopper pilot. They stopped at a relatively large commercial field and left the chopper on the ramp while they went inside for lunch. When they were on their way back out, security objected to them carrying their .45s out with them. "Don't be stupid" my friend said "We're military for God's sake!" But the moron wouldn't budge. After a bunch of to-ing and fro-ing, my buddy just said, "Well, I'm going out anyway" The security gaurd sez "I can't allow that" and my friend replied "Who's gonna stop me? You? I got a gun, remember? " And so he did. Never heard a word about it either. Bertie |
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es330td wrote:
What are the odds I can get away with taking my ICOM radio and listening to the cockpit? I fly with mine all the time, but I leave it off while onboard. The radio fits into my bag better without the antenna. I have used it in the terminal to listen to ground and clearance delivery. The only time you'll hear the cockpit is if you're on an aircraft with a comm feed in the entertainment system. The signal inside the aluminum tube is nearly nil. Holding the radio up to a window, or using an external antenna will probably get you in trouble as transceivers are banned in the cabin on any airline I fly. If you are a licensed pilot, just think of how stupid you'd look if you got caught violating an FAA reg. If you're instrument rated, the reg is something that appears on the written, so you'd look even dumber. |
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On Jan 30, 7:33*pm, es330td wrote:
What are the odds I can get away with taking my ICOM radio and listening to the cockpit? The question is why would you want to do this. On most flights ATC is available on the inflight entertainment system. What would happen if you had a stuck mike ? I will guarantee that if the flight attendants find that you have anything that looks like it could transmit you will get some unwanted attention. Why not just sit back, have a couple of drinks and read car magazines . FB |
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F. Baum wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:33 pm, es330td wrote: What are the odds I can get away with taking my ICOM radio and listening to the cockpit? The question is why would you want to do this. On most flights ATC is available on the inflight entertainment system. \ "Most flights" Hardly. United is the only one who does this to my knowledge and ATC-on-9 (officially "from the cockpit") is entirely at the captain's discretion. Notwithstanding that, the radio and the GPS stay in the flight bag for the duration of the flight. |
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On Jan 31, 7:29*am, B A R R Y wrote:
If you are a licensed pilot, just think of how stupid you'd look if you got caught violating an FAA reg. * This is probably the strongest reason to not do it. I don't have my license yet (working on cross country) so I'm still in the "fascinated by it all" phase. Although I think it would be interesting just to track the frequency changes and listen in on the conversations of the pros, I am not putting my flying career in jeopardy doing something like this. |
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On Jan 31, 6:14*am, Ron Natalie wrote:
The question is why would you want to do this. On most flights ATC is available on the inflight entertainment system. \ "Most flights" Hardly. United is the only one who does this to my knowledge and ATC-on-9 (officially "from the cockpit") is entirely at the captain's discretion. "Most Flights" Actually. . DAL and NWA do this also. On the bigger equipment they even have a moving map in the cabin so the Sheep can follow the progress. The cockpit crew has no control of the inflight entertainment system (Other than telling the cabin crew to shut it off). Notwithstanding that, the radio and the GPS stay in the flight bag for the duration of the flight. As they should. Ive had two incidents where pax were suspected of operating a two way device. Both turned out OK but they provided a distraction that we just dont need. Frank |
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