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Old February 1st 04, 05:32 PM
Mike Rapoport
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I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them not to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2


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Old February 1st 04, 05:58 PM
Plumb Bob
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...

time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all

pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa

and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation

that
ordinary people really care about.


Well, they are working on legistlation you and I care about: It's called
pork spending and running up the deficit to obscene levels.

I know we all care about that!!


  #3  
Old February 1st 04, 06:36 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"Plumb Bob" wrote in message
news:veaTb.156226$sv6.854729@attbi_s52...

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...

time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all

pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that

Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa

and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation

that
ordinary people really care about.


Well, they are working on legistlation you and I care about: It's called
pork spending and running up the deficit to obscene levels.

I know we all care about that!!


I guess they need to distinguish what we care about from what we want! Pork
spending is getting out of hand but I don't see any mechanism to contain it.
Even the defense budget is about 25% pork according to one study I read (I
think it was by the CBO or GAO).

Mike
MU-2


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Old February 1st 04, 07:09 PM
Jeff
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Ameritrade is the same way.
after using them, we got hundredss of spam (and still do) from stock places.

Mike Rapoport wrote:

I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them not to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2


  #5  
Old February 1st 04, 07:12 PM
Jeff
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Well the elections are comming up, if you think things are getting bad now,
wait untill GW gets re-elected (if he does), then he has no reason to not hold
back since he would be on his last term.


Plumb Bob wrote:

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...

time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all

pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa

and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation

that
ordinary people really care about.


Well, they are working on legistlation you and I care about: It's called
pork spending and running up the deficit to obscene levels.

I know we all care about that!!


  #6  
Old February 1st 04, 07:20 PM
Bob Gardner
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That's known as cutting off your nose to spite your face. The value of what
you will miss far exceeds any perceived gain.

Bob Gardner

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...
I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much

better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them not

to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all

pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa

and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation

that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2




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Old February 1st 04, 07:42 PM
Newps
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Jeff wrote:
Ameritrade is the same way.
after using them, we got hundredss of spam (and still do) from stock places.


Really? I've had Ameritrade for myself since about 1996 and for my kids
college trusts since 1997. Never got any spam from financial
institutions of any kind.

  #8  
Old February 1st 04, 08:09 PM
Javier Henderson
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"Mike Rapoport" writes:

I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.


May I suggest that you let them know why you won't buy their
products again, if you haven't already?

-jav
  #9  
Old February 1st 04, 08:22 PM
Richard Hertz
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I just subscribed to the magazine after hearing raves about it. I am not
impressed with it.

- they declined to send me a prior month after I had ordered.
- their 2004 yearly compilation seems to suggest that people do some illegal
or questionable approached by not using procedure turns
- the quiz in the latest magazine had the localizer backcourse shaded
incorrectly
- not much of the content is what I expected given all the raves about the
magazine.

What is it about the magazine that people seem to find so wonderful?


"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
k.net...
I used to subscribe to IFR until I realized that they offered a much

better
rate to new subscribers than to existing ones. After realizing this, my
four year old decided to subscribe :-). Today he recieved a solicitation
from another aviation magazine. Obviously they sold his (and my) name and
address. I always check the little box indicating that I don't want my
information shared and I don't want to recieve any offers. I will never
subscribe to any Belvoire publication again.

Just had to vent after calling a credit card company and telling them not

to
send me any more ot their stupid balance tranfer checks. It was the third
time I called them. I am in the national opt out list for all

pre-approved
credit and I still get at least two "offers" a day. I guess that Congress
is so busy spending our hard earned money developing rainforests in Iowa

and
subsidized rail to Disneyland that they don't have time for legislation

that
ordinary people really care about.

Mike
MU-2




  #10  
Old February 1st 04, 08:53 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...

I guess they need to distinguish what we care about from what we want!

Pork
spending is getting out of hand but I don't see any mechanism to contain

it.
Even the defense budget is about 25% pork according to one study I read (I
think it was by the CBO or GAO).


In 1981-82 the Grace Commission found that 40% or more of government
spending was pork/waste.

But hey, this is a DEMOCRACY. The spending might not be what YOU want (you
probably have your own little pet project -- we all do), but it's what your
NEIGHBOR wants.

"What we must remember is that, in a democracy, the whores are us." - P.J.
O'Rourke, _Parliament of Whores_.



 




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