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  #11  
Old August 27th 18, 03:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:27:16 PM UTC-7, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:03:09 PM UTC-7, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
With their L/D and a tailwind, one heck of a downwind dash....


But nowhere near enough to get to Africa...


Which would make it a downwind splash.
Jim
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Old August 27th 18, 04:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:41:42 PM UTC-7, JS wrote:
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:27:16 PM UTC-7, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:03:09 PM UTC-7, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
With their L/D and a tailwind, one heck of a downwind dash....


But nowhere near enough to get to Africa...


Which would make it a downwind splash.


Maybe they could borrow Mr Steven.
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Old August 28th 18, 07:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 2:18:06 PM UTC-4, Tom BravoMike wrote:
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 1:17:28 PM UTC-5, Tom BravoMike wrote:
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 1:16:04 PM UTC-5, Tom BravoMike wrote:
Sunday, August 26, 2016, 1:15 pm US Central D Time. Perlan climbing in 4-7 kts.


2018, of, course. Sorry for the typo, but it's so exciting to watch!


http://www.perlanproject.cloud/VirtualCockpit.html


Is the displayed "airspeed" true, indicated, or what?
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Old August 29th 18, 02:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On 08/28/2018 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 2:18:06 PM UTC-4, Tom BravoMike wrote:
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 1:17:28 PM UTC-5, Tom BravoMike wrote:
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 1:16:04 PM UTC-5, Tom BravoMike wrote:
Sunday, August 26, 2016, 1:15 pm US Central D Time. Perlan climbing in 4-7 kts.

2018, of, course. Sorry for the typo, but it's so exciting to watch!


http://www.perlanproject.cloud/VirtualCockpit.html

Is the displayed "airspeed" true, indicated, or what?


I saw over 200 displayed during the high-altitude flutter test. It's
gotta be true airspeed, if it was indicated, that would be insanely fast.
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Old August 29th 18, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I just can’t get excited about this. Until a guy climbs into his sailplane without big money sponsorship or pressure suits “on loan” from NASA and surpasses 49,009 feet, Bob Harris is still the King in my book.
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Old August 29th 18, 03:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 10:26:19 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I just can’t get excited about this. Until a guy climbs into his sailplane without big money sponsorship or pressure suits “on loan” from NASA and surpasses 49,009 feet, Bob Harris is still the King in my book.


I understand where you are coming from, I love it when people go big with no money. Perlan is also awesome. Sponsorship is just the lever adventurers use to fund the fun. Behind the 'serious scientific research funded by Airbus' cover story is a bunch of soaring junkies doing cool flights.
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Old August 29th 18, 01:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 10:39:52 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 10:26:19 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I just can’t get excited about this. Until a guy climbs into his sailplane without big money sponsorship or pressure suits “on loan” from NASA and surpasses 49,009 feet, Bob Harris is still the King in my book.


I understand where you are coming from, I love it when people go big with no money. Perlan is also awesome. Sponsorship is just the lever adventurers use to fund the fun. Behind the 'serious scientific research funded by Airbus' cover story is a bunch of soaring junkies doing cool flights.


Reinhold Messner's "Fair Means" vs "Siege Tactics".

The sticky bit is: we all have our own definitions of "Fair Means".

Evan Ludeman / T8



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Old August 29th 18, 02:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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At 12:54 29 August 2018, Tango Eight wrote:
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 10:39:52 PM UTC-4,

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On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 10:26:19 PM UTC-4,

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Reinhold Messner's "Fair Means" vs "Siege Tactics". =20

The sticky bit is: we all have our own definitions of "Fair Means".

Evan Ludeman / T8



I thought the tricky bit was above "coffin corner" where VNE is lower than
the stall speed,which was why a standard sailplane could not be used.





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Old August 30th 18, 03:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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wrote on 8/28/2018 7:26 PM:
I just can’t get excited about this. Until a guy climbs into his sailplane without big money sponsorship or pressure suits “on loan” from NASA and surpasses 49,009 feet, Bob Harris is still the King in my book.


Bob Harris did an amazing feet, but even he didn't push the boundaries of high
altitude soaring: he was limited by his physiology, not his knowledge of soaring
or his skill as a pilot. Any pilots attempting to beat his record are testing
their pulmonary function, not their soaring abilities or those of the glider.

The Perlan pilots are not limited by their physiology, and what they accomplish
will depend on their soaring skills, and their glider's performance. For me, they
are the ones pushing back the frontiers of soaring, and not someone that risks
death by trying to beat Bob's record using just a mask to breath.


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https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

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Old September 2nd 18, 03:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Live video now shows them hooking up to Egret on the ramp...

http://www.perlanproject.cloud/VirtualCockpit.html

 




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