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Old June 18th 05, 04:02 AM
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Default Piper Arrow vs Cessna 182

I would like to know the advantages and disadvantages of these
aircraft. They have aproximately the same performance with a
significant difference in the fuel consumption. What about maintenance
cost? Please post your comments.

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Old June 18th 05, 04:08 AM
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Useful load of an Arrow is no where near that of a Skylane. THAT is the
main difference, IMHO.

For a fairer comparison, you need to compare a Piper Pathfinder/Dakota with
the Skylane.
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Old June 18th 05, 11:54 AM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Useful load of an Arrow is no where near that of a Skylane. THAT is the
main difference, IMHO.

For a fairer comparison, you need to compare a Piper Pathfinder/Dakota with
the Skylane.


Besides what Jay mentioned, the Skylane is roomier than the Arrow... the
two doors makes it a lot easier to get in and out. The Skylane will cost
you a lot more to buy but may be a bit less to maintain.

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Old June 18th 05, 12:06 PM
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kontiki wrote:

Besides what Jay mentioned, the Skylane is roomier than the Arrow... the
two doors makes it a lot easier to get in and out. The Skylane will cost
you a lot more to buy but may be a bit less to maintain.

Also, not all skylane's are retracts... All arrows to my knowledge are.
The retractable gear adds cost and complexity.

Dave

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Old June 18th 05, 12:38 PM
Paul
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....For a fairer comparison, you need to compare a Piper Arrow with
the Cessna Cardinal (177).

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Paul

"Jay Honeck" a écrit dans le message de news:
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Useful load of an Arrow is no where near that of a Skylane. THAT is the
main difference, IMHO.

For a fairer comparison, you need to compare a Piper Pathfinder/Dakota
with the Skylane.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old June 18th 05, 04:22 PM
Montblack
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("Paul" wrote)
...For a fairer comparison, you need to compare a Piper Arrow with
the Cessna Cardinal (177).



177 RG :-)


Montblack

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Old June 18th 05, 05:51 PM
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In article et,
Dave S wrote:
Also, not all skylane's are retracts... All arrows to my knowledge are.
The retractable gear adds cost and complexity.



The non-retractable version of the Arrow is the Archer, which is also
missing the constant-speed prop.

In my opinion, the only advantage the Arrow has over the Archer is range
due to the ability to load more fuel. I'm not sure that advantage is
worth the extra cost in maintenance and insurance.



JKG
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Old June 18th 05, 11:28 PM
Javier Henderson
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Jonathan Goodish writes:

In article et,
Dave S wrote:
Also, not all skylane's are retracts... All arrows to my knowledge are.
The retractable gear adds cost and complexity.



The non-retractable version of the Arrow is the Archer, which is also
missing the constant-speed prop.

In my opinion, the only advantage the Arrow has over the Archer is range
due to the ability to load more fuel. I'm not sure that advantage is
worth the extra cost in maintenance and insurance.


Is the Arrow any faster than the Archer?

-jav
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Old June 18th 05, 11:42 PM
Jonathan Goodish
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In article ,
Javier Henderson wrote:
In my opinion, the only advantage the Arrow has over the Archer is range
due to the ability to load more fuel. I'm not sure that advantage is
worth the extra cost in maintenance and insurance.


Is the Arrow any faster than the Archer?



Yes, as you would expect given the reduced drag from the gear. However,
I don't believe the speed advantage is any more than 15kts or so, which
isn't much for the increase in insurance and maintenance costs. You can
get the same performance out of fixed-gear, fixed pitch prop airplanes
like the Tiger.



JKG
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Old June 19th 05, 12:07 AM
Javier Henderson
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Jonathan Goodish writes:

In article ,
Javier Henderson wrote:
In my opinion, the only advantage the Arrow has over the Archer is range
due to the ability to load more fuel. I'm not sure that advantage is
worth the extra cost in maintenance and insurance.


Is the Arrow any faster than the Archer?



Yes, as you would expect given the reduced drag from the gear. However,
I don't believe the speed advantage is any more than 15kts or so, which
isn't much for the increase in insurance and maintenance costs. You can
get the same performance out of fixed-gear, fixed pitch prop airplanes
like the Tiger.


Hm.. I've owned a couple of Tigers, I'd get about 135KTAS on the
average. I thought the Arrow would be closer to 150 KTAS?

-jav
 




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