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Why haven't rental rates come back down?
On 05/14/09 11:23, Dallas wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:10:40 -0700, Mark Hansen wrote: Not to make you feel worse, but in my club, we rent IFR-certified 172s for around $80 wet. Well, you made me feel worse anyway. :- ) Hey, you could always move out here and join our club :-) .... it's not Texas, but ... well whatever :-\ You guys are proving to me that there hasn't been any structural increase in the expense of running a flight school/rental operation. These guys in the DFW area have just colluded to hold their prices up. Well, your group is probably for-profit, while my club is not. I imagine that can have quite an impact on the prices. I know our club tries to maintain stable rental rates even when the fuel prices fluctuate. They just soak up the difference. During the last run-up in fuel prices, I think the rate on the IFR 172N went from around $78 to around $86 and now it's back down to around $80. Also, our planes are generally pretty old. We do have one newer 172SP with G1000. It rents for about $130. The other 172s are in the 1979 - 1984 range. But they still fly, and (most) have all the modern avionics, etc. I've been very happy. At this point, I'm not sure I could afford to fly otherwise. -- Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot Cal Aggie Flying Farmers Sacramento, CA |
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"Bob" wrote in message
. 102... Mark Hansen wrote in : On 05/13/09 10:54, Dallas wrote: On Tue, 12 May 2009 20:07:24 GMT, Bob wrote: My FBO/Flight School charges $95.00 (wet) for a 172, a $3 increase from last year. Those are sweet prices. I hope you appreciate the good deal you've got going there. Not to make you feel worse, but in my club, we rent IFR-certified 172s for around $80 wet. Plus we have great insurance for a club membership fee of $19/month. No yearly or monthly membership fees. Club has a bonus program that actually lowers the prices for members. Deposit at least $300 in your account, and get a 20% bonus. This brings the cost of a 172 down to $79.00. We are also reimbursed for fuel if we have to buy it at another airport. One of the busiest flight schools in the area. Several distinguished graduates, including a several astronauts. Question: How many hours per year do the airplanes fly? I ask that because I suspect that a lot of the current rental prices are going into the fixed overhead--and the owners and opperators are probably still losing money. Peter |
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Dallas wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009 18:29:55 +0200, Kai Rode wrote: I *really* have to go to the US to do some serious flying soon. I'm currently renting a 172R for ¤175 ($237) per hour wet... *Now* I feel better. :- ) I'm really sorry to do this, but I just can't resist. I tried to stop, honestly, but I can't! I paid $32 for a 2.3 hour flight this past weekend. I completely understand and accept all of the hate which will probably flow my way now. -- Mike Ash Radio Free Earth Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon |
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On 05/14/09 14:50, Mike Ash wrote:
In article , Dallas wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009 18:29:55 +0200, Kai Rode wrote: I *really* have to go to the US to do some serious flying soon. I'm currently renting a 172R for ¤175 ($237) per hour wet... *Now* I feel better. :- ) I'm really sorry to do this, but I just can't resist. I tried to stop, honestly, but I can't! I paid $32 for a 2.3 hour flight this past weekend. I completely understand and accept all of the hate which will probably flow my way now. Well, yeah, but see we pay a lot extra for all that engine noise which you miss out on :-) -- Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot Cal Aggie Flying Farmers Sacramento, CA |
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On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:10:40 -0700, Mark Hansen
wrote: Not to make you feel worse, but in my club, we rent IFR-certified 172s for around $80 wet. Plus we have great insurance for a club membership fee of $19/month. Hah! Thanks for reminding me why I fly an ultralight these days... $8/hour for fuel, $75/month to keep it at the airport... -Dana -- No trees were harmed in the transmission of this message. However, a rather large number of electrons were temporarily inconvenienced. |
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Mark Hansen wrote: On 05/14/09 14:50, Mike Ash wrote: In article , Dallas wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009 18:29:55 +0200, Kai Rode wrote: I *really* have to go to the US to do some serious flying soon. I'm currently renting a 172R for ¤175 ($237) per hour wet... *Now* I feel better. :- ) I'm really sorry to do this, but I just can't resist. I tried to stop, honestly, but I can't! I paid $32 for a 2.3 hour flight this past weekend. I completely understand and accept all of the hate which will probably flow my way now. Well, yeah, but see we pay a lot extra for all that engine noise which you miss out on :-) I know, and then you pay even more money for fancy headsets to block the noise out again. It boggles the mind, I tell you. -- Mike Ash Radio Free Earth Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon |
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"Zack Sten" wrote ... At least you are still able to fly. At the FBO/Flight School I have rented from for more than six years, the entire fleet of aircraft have been grounded since January. The excuse was that they can no longer pay for the insurance on those aircraft. Here's a "cold water shot of reality" from about eight years ago: Yearly insurance on a 1979 PA28-181, 1M/100K: Private owners (2 named pilots) $850. Club (2 planes/ 28 members) $2800 per plane. Local FBO (training & rental) $8600 |
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Kai Rode schrieb:
Club has a bonus program that actually lowers the prices for members. Deposit at least $300 in your account, and get a 20% bonus. This brings the cost of a 172 down to $79.00. I *really* have to go to the US to do some serious flying soon. I have no hope to be 'able' to come back for some years, money (at *that* exchange rate!) is not that big of an issue .... Too bad. I am still missing to stand at the rim of the Grand Canyon ... :-( |
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Martin Hotze wrote:
I am still missing to stand at the rim of the Grand Canyon ... :-( Well, I haven't made it there yet either. Some day I hope... |
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You won't be disappointed, Martin! g
"Martin Hotze" wrote in message ... Kai Rode schrieb: Club has a bonus program that actually lowers the prices for members. Deposit at least $300 in your account, and get a 20% bonus. This brings the cost of a 172 down to $79.00. I *really* have to go to the US to do some serious flying soon. I have no hope to be 'able' to come back for some years, money (at *that* exchange rate!) is not that big of an issue .... Too bad. I am still missing to stand at the rim of the Grand Canyon ... :-( |
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