RFW demands public investigation into Dave Touretzky's "research".

Read the latest info on the RFW on Dave Touretzky. Unlike his
supporters on Usenet and in Wikipiggi, the RFW makes it homework.

I wonder who Dave's ínfant will be? Tory? Barbzzzz Babbles Graham? And
would he rather burn them instead of his rodent invested research?

They say that Dave considers robots to be humans. Gee, what is the
psychiatric word for that? Delusional?


Anti-Religious Extremists / David Touretzky

David Touretzky

* More Information on David Touretzky
* Discrimination
* Terrorism
* DVD Encryption
* Hate Campaign
* Study Technology
* Cyberterrorism
* The Media
* Chat Log
* Government Grants
* National Science Foundation: Account Number 9978403
* 2004 National Institute for Mental Health Grant
* 2004 National Institute for Mental Health Grant - Documents

David Touretzky
Behind the Smoke-Screen David Touretzky Calls "Science"
Rat

"[Pavlovian] Classical conditioning has a well-developed
computational theory... At present there are no theories of
instrumental conditioning comparable in scope and explicitness... The
goal of our work is to provide such a theory....

"Due to the pioneering work of B.F. Skinner on operant
conditioning, we have coined the term "skinnerbot" to describe
autonomous learning robots..."

Operant Conditioning in Skinnerbots
David S. Touretzky
Carnegie Mellon University Researcher

David S. Touretzky is a research scientist at Carnegie Mellon
University whose questionable "research projects" have thus far
cost the American taxpayer million of dollars.

The above quotes are excerpted from one of several research projects
conducted by an entity co-founded by Touretzky called "The Center for
the Neural Basis of Cognition." The flawed theories upon which he
bases his work have been known for decades to be of such damage to
mankind, that a full public investigation of the value of Touretzky's
research projects, particularly in light of their cost, is overdue.

The experiments of Pavlov and Skinner that Touretzky reverently
references in the above paper as the basis of his work are viewed by
today's society as the barbaric acts of madmen.

B.F. Skinner imprisoned his infant daughter for nearly a year in a
"box" similar to those he built for rats. Skinner stated in an
interview that he would rather burn his own children than destroy his
research.

As author and educator Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld stated, "The child was
"stimulated" and had to respond in a certain way, like a chicken or
a rat in a cage, because they firmly believed that children are
animals. If you believe, though, that children are human beings, you
can't train them like a rat."

Skinner would be imprisoned for the rest of his life were he to carry
out the same experiment today.

Although best known for his conditioning of dogs by deprivation, the
first subjects Ivan Petrovich Pavlov experimented on were children. He
punched holes in their cheeks to collect and measure their saliva.

Pavlov's and Skinner's experiments fed Behaviorist beliefs that, as
Dr. Blumenfled states, "all children are animals and can be trained
as animals." John Watson, the most famous of Behaviorists, believed
that researchers had to look at human beings "the same way you would
look at the ox you slaughter."

Man Redefined

Touretzky's "research" seeks to find new applications for these
old barbarisms. His grant requests and questionable "findings"
imply that Pavlov's and Skinner's dehumanizing "conditioning"
theories have a use beyond their only established value to date:
providing "scientific" justification for those whose business it is
to torture, pacify and euthanize.

Touretzky puts a vague potential value on research projects which drain
the taxpayers of millions. In actuality he is repackaging and selling
other men's theories under the sexy new label of "computer
science." By recycling Skinner's box and his experiments on
rodents, Touretzky has managed to make a very comfortable living
dangling under the noses of the administrators of government funds the
carrot that perhaps someday robots can be conditioned to react and
"learn" like rats, as he considers humans do. In truth, these
experiments appear to be a mere re-ringing of Pavlov's bell inside
Skinner's torture chamber with a dash of Noam Chomsky to appear
timely. For Touretzky has yet to provide a shred of evidence that the
value of his contributions to science amount to more than the cost of
his dead rats.

Little attention would be paid to Touretzky were he just another
researcher dreaming up dubious projects in order to feed from the
public trough. But Touretzky's thirst is for power and fame as well
as money.

TOURETZKY CREATING RACISM

Psychiatry: Creating Racism

Touretzky subscribes in full to the Behaviorist doctrine that man is an
animal and his virulently racist remarks are in complete alignment with
psychiatry's practice of Eugenics which holds that dark-skinned
races, among others "defectives," are intellectually inferior.
Racial and religious minorities are his favorite targets.
Fetus

"She [US Congresswoman] is the former ambassador to Micronesia!
and she's black. I should have known. What [sic] are all the really
st00000pid congresswomen black?"

"The black underclass is a very, very sick culture, with terrible
internal problems such as high rates of black-on-black murder, teenage
pregnancy, educational failure, drug abuse, and so on. AA programs
can't help the black underclass, because those people are so screwed
up they're virtually unemployable...."

"There's also a long rant about the sickness of black
underclass culture, which again, I completely stand behind."

"Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran Bomb Ira-a-a-n, because we
ca-a-a-n.... the arabs and persians are still crazy f-ks, so what are
we gonna do?"

"F-k the Muslims. ... check out the bloody Muslims .. jeez what
loons."

"Man, Hispanics are f--ed up, which is why they're still
working class. Dip****s."

While his vicious verbal attacks on Hispanics, African-Americans and
Muslims are usually confined to his nightly discussions on a private
internet chat group, he apparently considers the Church of Scientology
to be a target he can safely attack in public. Promoting himself as an
educator, he presents himself to the media as an expert on religion -
a subject in which he has no education himself and no credentials.
Scientology's dedicated defense of the public against the kind of
barbaric experiments devised by Touretzky's mentors apparently makes
the Church, in his mind, a force that must be slandered at every
opportunity - particularly since Scientology's ability to prove the
spirituality of mankind renders Touretzky's belief in the neural
basis of cognition to be invalid.

Touretzky is less anxious to discuss his true motivations with his
employer, associates, and students at his university. Therefore they
are published here so that his true intentions are known and so that
those entrusted by the taxpayer with the disbursement of their
hard-earned dollars for the public good will be encouraged to look
beyond the smokescreen of "science" to the actual value of
Touretzky's work.

POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT FUNDED BY U.S. GOVERNMENT
AGENCIES

"My money comes mostly from the US govt, not corporations. So if
we raise taxes and hike the NSF and NIH and DARPA budgets, that would
be to my benefit. ... I'm already overpaid."

David S. Touretzky
Carnegie Mellon University Researcher

For several years Touretzky has been on a crusade to denigrate and harm
the Scientology religion, as well as affiliated entities and numerous
individual Scientologists. Touretzky has been the beneficiary of a
number of monetary grants by the National Science Foundation and the
National Institute of Mental Health - which funds have been utilized
by Touretzky both directly and indirectly to support his
anti-Scientology endeavors and to create hate against a religion.

Touretzky is employed on the faculty of Carnegie Mellon University,
which is the direct recipient of the grants he has sought and received
from the NSF and the NIMH. These grants have paid for his research
relating to Scientology and studies of Scientology. Touretzky admits
that his research includes Scientology, thus he uses U.S. Government
appropriation to attack a religion under the guise of "cognitive
science" or "computational neuroscience" research. Here is what
he said in an email he sent to a public official:

"My research areas include cognitive science and computational
neuroscience. Hence, Scientology's ... theories of how the mind works
are of particular interest to me."

Touretzky has posted hundreds of pages of his purported
"research"- much of which is simply anti-Scientology diatribe -
on the CMU computer facilities. He has made no secret of his desire to
actually harm Scientology, to cause persons to leave the religion, to
prevent new persons from joining the religion, to cause governmental
entities to discriminate against Scientology, and essentially to do
whatever he is able to derogate and disestablish this faith in an
effort to destroy religion. This has been done during and in the
context of his supposed scientific research funded by the NSF and the
NIMH.

Government entities are forbidden to establish any religion, and are
equally forbidden from attacking and disestablishing specific
religions. Scientologists have a right to their beliefs and their
churches have a right to provide services to their congregations and to
establish and exercise their faith without governmental harassment and
interference.

Yet, the NSF and the NIMH have knowingly or unknowingly, been the
vehicle for modern-day governmental suppression which the enactment of
the First Amendment and which an unbroken line of Supreme Court
decisions dating back over 125 years forbids as unconstitutional under
the free exercise and establishment clauses of the First Amendment.

Touretzky will no doubt assert his own right to speak as he pleases
concerning his views of Scientology, Muslims, African-American and
Hispanics and to enter into whatever pogrom his personal hatred
dictates. But because his acts are directly and indirectly funded by a
governmental agency, that governmentally sponsored conduct violates the
First Amendment rights of religions he attacks.

Regardless of the means utilized by Touretzky to camouflage his conduct
through grant requests which do not reference Scientology, and whether
or not the NSF and the NIMH were previously aware of his acts, his
conduct consequently violates constitutional law.

www.ReligiousFreedomWatch.org contains extensive documentation showing
Touretzky's bigotry and racism while working at Carnegie Mellon
University under Federal Grants projects.
Read Onto: Discrimination

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org...vid-touretzky/

Here is the link.


Is Dave Tourezky really trying to make computers human or human rather
into computers?

Perhaps just his rats can tell.

Dave Touretzky's idols are child abusers Skinner and Pavlov. What does
this say about him?

Barbara Schwarz


Barbara Schwarz wrote:
Read the latest info on the RFW on Dave Touretzky. Unlike his
supporters on Usenet and in Wikipiggi, the RFW made its homework.

I wonder who Dave's ínfant will be? Tory? Barbzzzz Babbles Graham? And
would he rather burn them instead of his rodent invested research?

They say that Dave considers robots to be humans. Gee, what is the
psychiatric word for that? Delusional?


Anti-Religious Extremists / David Touretzky

David Touretzky

* More Information on David Touretzky
* Discrimination
* Terrorism
* DVD Encryption
* Hate Campaign
* Study Technology
* Cyberterrorism
* The Media
* Chat Log
* Government Grants
* National Science Foundation: Account Number 9978403
* 2004 National Institute for Mental Health Grant
* 2004 National Institute for Mental Health Grant - Documents

David Touretzky
Behind the Smoke-Screen David Touretzky Calls "Science"
Rat

"[Pavlovian] Classical conditioning has a well-developed
computational theory... At present there are no theories of
instrumental conditioning comparable in scope and explicitness... The
goal of our work is to provide such a theory....

"Due to the pioneering work of B.F. Skinner on operant
conditioning, we have coined the term "skinnerbot" to describe
autonomous learning robots..."

Operant Conditioning in Skinnerbots
David S. Touretzky
Carnegie Mellon University Researcher

David S. Touretzky is a research scientist at Carnegie Mellon
University whose questionable "research projects" have thus far
cost the American taxpayer million of dollars.

The above quotes are excerpted from one of several research projects
conducted by an entity co-founded by Touretzky called "The Center for
the Neural Basis of Cognition." The flawed theories upon which he
bases his work have been known for decades to be of such damage to
mankind, that a full public investigation of the value of Touretzky's
research projects, particularly in light of their cost, is overdue.

The experiments of Pavlov and Skinner that Touretzky reverently
references in the above paper as the basis of his work are viewed by
today's society as the barbaric acts of madmen.

B.F. Skinner imprisoned his infant daughter for nearly a year in a
"box" similar to those he built for rats. Skinner stated in an
interview that he would rather burn his own children than destroy his
research.

As author and educator Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld stated, "The child was
"stimulated" and had to respond in a certain way, like a chicken or
a rat in a cage, because they firmly believed that children are
animals. If you believe, though, that children are human beings, you
can't train them like a rat."

Skinner would be imprisoned for the rest of his life were he to carry
out the same experiment today.

Although best known for his conditioning of dogs by deprivation, the
first subjects Ivan Petrovich Pavlov experimented on were children. He
punched holes in their cheeks to collect and measure their saliva.

Pavlov's and Skinner's experiments fed Behaviorist beliefs that, as
Dr. Blumenfled states, "all children are animals and can be trained
as animals." John Watson, the most famous of Behaviorists, believed
that researchers had to look at human beings "the same way you would
look at the ox you slaughter."

Man Redefined

Touretzky's "research" seeks to find new applications for these
old barbarisms. His grant requests and questionable "findings"
imply that Pavlov's and Skinner's dehumanizing "conditioning"
theories have a use beyond their only established value to date:
providing "scientific" justification for those whose business it is
to torture, pacify and euthanize.

Touretzky puts a vague potential value on research projects which drain
the taxpayers of millions. In actuality he is repackaging and selling
other men's theories under the sexy new label of "computer
science." By recycling Skinner's box and his experiments on
rodents, Touretzky has managed to make a very comfortable living
dangling under the noses of the administrators of government funds the
carrot that perhaps someday robots can be conditioned to react and
"learn" like rats, as he considers humans do. In truth, these
experiments appear to be a mere re-ringing of Pavlov's bell inside
Skinner's torture chamber with a dash of Noam Chomsky to appear
timely. For Touretzky has yet to provide a shred of evidence that the
value of his contributions to science amount to more than the cost of
his dead rats.

Little attention would be paid to Touretzky were he just another
researcher dreaming up dubious projects in order to feed from the
public trough. But Touretzky's thirst is for power and fame as well
as money.

TOURETZKY CREATING RACISM

Psychiatry: Creating Racism

Touretzky subscribes in full to the Behaviorist doctrine that man is an
animal and his virulently racist remarks are in complete alignment with
psychiatry's practice of Eugenics which holds that dark-skinned
races, among others "defectives," are intellectually inferior.
Racial and religious minorities are his favorite targets.
Fetus

"She [US Congresswoman] is the former ambassador to Micronesia!
and she's black. I should have known. What [sic] are all the really
st00000pid congresswomen black?"

"The black underclass is a very, very sick culture, with terrible
internal problems such as high rates of black-on-black murder, teenage
pregnancy, educational failure, drug abuse, and so on. AA programs
can't help the black underclass, because those people are so screwed
up they're virtually unemployable...."

"There's also a long rant about the sickness of black
underclass culture, which again, I completely stand behind."

"Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran Bomb Ira-a-a-n, because we
ca-a-a-n.... the arabs and persians are still crazy f-ks, so what are
we gonna do?"

"F-k the Muslims. ... check out the bloody Muslims .. jeez what
loons."

"Man, Hispanics are f--ed up, which is why they're still
working class. Dip****s."

While his vicious verbal attacks on Hispanics, African-Americans and
Muslims are usually confined to his nightly discussions on a private
internet chat group, he apparently considers the Church of Scientology
to be a target he can safely attack in public. Promoting himself as an
educator, he presents himself to the media as an expert on religion -
a subject in which he has no education himself and no credentials.
Scientology's dedicated defense of the public against the kind of
barbaric experiments devised by Touretzky's mentors apparently makes
the Church, in his mind, a force that must be slandered at every
opportunity - particularly since Scientology's ability to prove the
spirituality of mankind renders Touretzky's belief in the neural
basis of cognition to be invalid.

Touretzky is less anxious to discuss his true motivations with his
employer, associates, and students at his university. Therefore they
are published here so that his true intentions are known and so that
those entrusted by the taxpayer with the disbursement of their
hard-earned dollars for the public good will be encouraged to look
beyond the smokescreen of "science" to the actual value of
Touretzky's work.

POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT FUNDED BY U.S. GOVERNMENT
AGENCIES

"My money comes mostly from the US govt, not corporations. So if
we raise taxes and hike the NSF and NIH and DARPA budgets, that would
be to my benefit. ... I'm already overpaid."

David S. Touretzky
Carnegie Mellon University Researcher

For several years Touretzky has been on a crusade to denigrate and harm
the Scientology religion, as well as affiliated entities and numerous
individual Scientologists. Touretzky has been the beneficiary of a
number of monetary grants by the National Science Foundation and the
National Institute of Mental Health - which funds have been utilized
by Touretzky both directly and indirectly to support his
anti-Scientology endeavors and to create hate against a religion.

Touretzky is employed on the faculty of Carnegie Mellon University,
which is the direct recipient of the grants he has sought and received
from the NSF and the NIMH. These grants have paid for his research
relating to Scientology and studies of Scientology. Touretzky admits
that his research includes Scientology, thus he uses U.S. Government
appropriation to attack a religion under the guise of "cognitive
science" or "computational neuroscience" research. Here is what
he said in an email he sent to a public official:

"My research areas include cognitive science and computational
neuroscience. Hence, Scientology's ... theories of how the mind works
are of particular interest to me."

Touretzky has posted hundreds of pages of his purported
"research"- much of which is simply anti-Scientology diatribe -
on the CMU computer facilities. He has made no secret of his desire to
actually harm Scientology, to cause persons to leave the religion, to
prevent new persons from joining the religion, to cause governmental
entities to discriminate against Scientology, and essentially to do
whatever he is able to derogate and disestablish this faith in an
effort to destroy religion. This has been done during and in the
context of his supposed scientific research funded by the NSF and the
NIMH.

Government entities are forbidden to establish any religion, and are
equally forbidden from attacking and disestablishing specific
religions. Scientologists have a right to their beliefs and their
churches have a right to provide services to their congregations and to
establish and exercise their faith without governmental harassment and
interference.

Yet, the NSF and the NIMH have knowingly or unknowingly, been the
vehicle for modern-day governmental suppression which the enactment of
the First Amendment and which an unbroken line of Supreme Court
decisions dating back over 125 years forbids as unconstitutional under
the free exercise and establishment clauses of the First Amendment.

Touretzky will no doubt assert his own right to speak as he pleases
concerning his views of Scientology, Muslims, African-American and
Hispanics and to enter into whatever pogrom his personal hatred
dictates. But because his acts are directly and indirectly funded by a
governmental agency, that governmentally sponsored conduct violates the
First Amendment rights of religions he attacks.

Regardless of the means utilized by Touretzky to camouflage his conduct
through grant requests which do not reference Scientology, and whether
or not the NSF and the NIMH were previously aware of his acts, his
conduct consequently violates constitutional law.

www.ReligiousFreedomWatch.org contains extensive documentation showing
Touretzky's bigotry and racism while working at Carnegie Mellon
University under Federal Grants projects.
Read Onto: Discrimination

Dave Touretzky's idols are child abusers Skinner and Pavlov. What does
this say about him?

Pavlov - the guy that gave modern educational thinking the concepts and
ideas behind conditioned learning and associative learning theorems?
Skinner - the guy who gave modern educational thinking the key concepts of
negative and positive reinforcement as well as cognative thinking?

Where do you get the idea these two people who have contributed much the
combined knowledge of how we think and learn and how best these can be
applied to learners of *all* ages are child abusers?

Face it - even cults use the works of Skinner and Pavlov. If you don't
believe me, try "if Ron says that there are Body Thetans and they itch,
then all those brainwashed by his cult will scratch".

Try doing some research before jumping on the "child abuser" tags - it makes
you look stupider by the second when you do this.
--
"Der einzige Weg, Leute zu kontrollieren ist sie anzulügen" - L. Ron "Ich
kann kein Science-Fiction schreiben" Hubbard; Lügner, Betrüger, Fixer und
Wohltäter zu niemandem

Like most scientology crime cult creations, RFW is a mere void shell
designed to hide the few remaining criminal OSA scientologists behind
it. It can't possibly make anything.

antisectes wrote:
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Like so many anti-religious extremists, you are nothing but a liar,
Roger Gonnet. Anyway, you don't pay american taxes. You can't tell the
American not to review the fleecing of America because you are friends
with the rat king Dave Touretzky.


Barbara Schwarz
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html

The generosity of L. Ron Hubbard: "The hardest task one can have is to
continue to love his fellows despite all reasons he should not. And the
true sign of sanity and greatness is to so continue. For the one who
can archive this, there is abundant hope." -- L.Ron Hubbard (From What
is Greatness? Certainty Vol. 13 No. 3, March 1966)

"It takes truth to live with a swiftly changing world. Nothing less
than truth can survive." -- L. Ron Hubbard