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Old July 7th 03, 05:27 AM
John Cook
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:21:00 -0400, Cub Driver
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The British Meteor was tops overall for WWII


The top jet fighter, that was never in air-to-air combat? Shucks,
maybe the Bell Airacuda was the best piston-engine fighter of the war.

The Meteor, like the P-80, came too late for the banquet. And George
Cayley didn't trust his glider enough to go up in it.


Something the NASA boffins who designed the space shuttle also agreed
with - send someone else....


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Old July 7th 03, 08:13 AM
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Cub Driver wrote:

Yes, it does. (Leif Erikson Day is October 9:th in the USA.)


A fact that is known to what percentage of Americans (a term that
includes in this usage all residents of the Americas)?

One millioneth of one percent?

Be serious.


I don't think you're serious. Why would foreigners know
when that day is in USA? (And the number doesn't make
sense anyway.)

But no, it doesn't seem he's celebrated south of USA, if that's
what you're thinking of:

http://cartography.geog.uu.nl/eriksson/introduction.html
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Old July 7th 03, 11:00 AM
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That's not correct, "Americans" as it is used today refers only to citizens
of the United States.


To most of the Americas, citizens of the United States are called
Norte Americanos or U.S.-ians.

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Old July 7th 03, 11:33 AM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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To most of the Americas, citizens of the United States are called
Norte Americanos or U.S.-ians.


Wrong.


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Old July 7th 03, 11:33 AM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
news

Well, I'll allow a footnote for the Zeppilins, as a failed branch of
flight. But balloons get involved in flight only as obstacles to Cubs
flying low and slow.


But they do get involved in flight.


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Old July 7th 03, 12:07 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Pull your head out of your ass. When you see some group on the evening news
chanting "Death to America!" do you think they're ****ed off at Bolivia?


No need to get vulgar. And I think you must mean "arse"; city bylaws
restrict where we can keep draught animals around here, and I don't
have any.

Groups chanting on the news are your authority? They're not mine. Are
they lexicographers? Just because they use a connotation of the word,
does not mean they have altered the denotative meaning.

"Americans" includes all of us within the Americas.
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Old July 7th 03, 12:10 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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To most of the Americas, citizens of the United States are called
Norte Americanos or U.S.-ians.


Wrong.


Dan's translation is essentially correct; hispanophones use
"estadunidenses" and francophones use (more uncommonly, I admit)
"étasuniseins" when referring to citizens of the United States.
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Old July 7th 03, 12:28 PM
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"Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message
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Dan's translation is essentially correct; hispanophones use
"estadunidenses" and francophones use (more uncommonly, I admit)
"étasuniseins" when referring to citizens of the United States.


But not Norte Americanos or U.S.-ians.


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Old July 7th 03, 01:54 PM
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"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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The top jet fighter, that was never in air-to-air combat? Shucks,
maybe the Bell Airacuda was the best piston-engine fighter of the war.

The Meteor, like the P-80, came too late for the banquet.


The Meteor was in air combat in World War II.


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Old July 7th 03, 04:21 PM
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"Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message
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The Oxford English Dictionary and the _Memoirs_ of Sir Robert Laird
Borden, Prime Minister of Canada during the Great War..

From the OED, "American... sb. 2. A native of America of European
descent, esp. a citizen of the United States."

So it is not restricted solely to citizens of the U.S. Borden's
_Memoirs_ shows that Canadians persisted in thinking of themselves as
Americans too even 60 years after Confederation (he was writing in the
1930s of exchanges at the Imperial War Cabinet during the Great War).


Well, I guess they got it wrong then.


 




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