NATCA Going Down in Flames

Jose wrote:
But why is the union making such a big deal about it? To tell
employees that a supervisor making a comment about dress constitutes a
"meeting", well...that's why I'm glad we don't have unions at my
particular part of the company.

To make it difficult for the management, in the hopes that they will
rethink their position (or at least be punished for holding it).

Again, what's the point? Management isn't the enemy...or is that a
naive position?

Jose wrote:
And they better be starched with crisp creases.
Why? What positive effect can there be in that?

Air safety of course. Would you trust a vector given to you by somebody
who doesn't even starch their pants? g

I'm glad you can't see how some of my coworkers dress. You'd never get
on half the commercial aircraft out there ever again.

To make it difficult for the management, in the hopes that they will rethink their position (or at least be punished for holding it).
Again, what's the point? Management isn't the enemy...or is that a naive position?

Thems that came up with the dress code is the enemy. (my presumption -
I am not a controller and have no dog in the fight). Sometimes it's
unavoidable if there is collateral damage in these fights, but the buck
has to stop somewhere. The idea is to make implementation of their plan
difficult.

Jose
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Emily wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Emily" wrote in message
. ..

But why is the union making such a big deal about it? To tell
employees that a supervisor making a comment about dress constitutes
a "meeting", well...that's why I'm glad we don't have unions at my
particular part of the company.


I don't think they're making a bid deal about the dress code, they,re
making a big deal about the imposed "contract". The dress code is
just one part of it.

I guess I've never figured out why, if an employee doesn't like the
rules he is subjected to, he just doesn't find something else to do. A
union certainly isn't the solution.

A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having to
think for, and take care of, themselves.

Matt

A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having to think for, and take care of, themselves.

Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer. Some unions tip
the playing field too far the other way.

Jose
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In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:
When I take a CAP squadron or Boy Scout Troop on a tower tour, I expect
the controllers to look professional -- period. What does it say when
we require the kids to be in uniform, but the controllers are wearing
flip-flops and cut-off shorts?

It says that dressing like a drone is so 1950s?
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Jose wrote:
A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having
to think for, and take care of, themselves.

Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.

But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.

Jose wrote:

A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having
to think for, and take care of, themselves.


Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer. Some unions tip
the playing field too far the other way.

I disagree. It distorts the free market of labor causing inefficiency.

Matt

On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:45:05 -0500, Emily
wrote:

Jose wrote:
A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having
to think for, and take care of, themselves.

Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.

But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.

Simply amoral. My objective is to maximize the return on my
investment in time in working for the company. To the extent that the
company considers my time a fungable quantity, I will use whatever
tools are available to discourage that view. Collective bargaining
one such lever. I'd be a fool not to use it.

Don

Don Tuite wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:45:05 -0500, Emily
wrote:

Jose wrote:
A union is like welfare from the government. It saves people having
to think for, and take care of, themselves.
Unions have nothing to do with government. A union levels the playing
field, which otherwise is skewed towards the employer.
But what's wrong with that? Granted, I have a great employer, but
employers aren't evil.

Simply amoral. My objective is to maximize the return on my
investment in time in working for the company. To the extent that the
company considers my time a fungable quantity
But isn't it?

I will use whatever
tools are available to discourage that view.
I guess I just don't see anything wrong with that view...