NATCA Going Down in Flames

Some will leave. One of the effects of messing with people that are
eligible to retire is a jump in retirements.

I suspect also that the ones who leave (other than for retirement) would
be the ones who can easily find work elsewhere. ATC would be left with...

Jose
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
When I take a CAP squadron or Boy Scout Troop on a tower tour, I expect
the controllers to look professional -- period. What does it say when
we require the kids to be in uniform, but the controllers are wearing
flip-flops and cut-off shorts?


In what tower did you see controllers wearing flip-flops and cut-off shorts?


I saw it at BMI about four years ago.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

The fact that tours can be arranged argues for them to not look like
bums.


I sometimes get deliveries from UPS, the drivers wear shorts in the summer.
They don't look like bums to me. Why do you think they do? Have you ever
seen actual bums wearing shorts?

I'm betting that dress codes are in the employee handbook.
Now the management have decided to enforce it.
High Lights the trouble makers.
And gives the union something to complain about.
Makes it seem to the membership that their Union Reps are working for their
best interest.

It seems that NATCA did not have the guts to talk with their feet on their
new contract that was forced down their throat. IIRC Prez Billy called their
bluff back in the early 90s contract negotiation also.

BT

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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As of today, the FAA has imposed a dress code on their employees,
requiring that they (*gasp!*) NOT where flip-flops and cut-offs to
work! Amazingly, believe it or not, these employees are now actually
going to be required to wear (*Oh-mi-God*) DRESS PANTS and a DRESS
SHIRT to work!

In the face of this terrible affront, the controller's union, NATCA,
has decided to do the following, quoted from AvWeb:
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What's A Union To Do?
While the battle inside the towers and centers may (to outsiders) have
its whimsical side, the practical impact of the new regime could be
significant. NATCA appears determined to fight each and every violation
of the new rules cited by management. In a memo to controllers at a
major center (we do know which one), union leaders are urging members
to exercise their rights to the letter. "If a supervisor tries to talk
with you regarding the way your are dressed, it constitutes a formal
meeting," the memo reads. "Stop the conversation immediately and ask
for a union representative. The same approach should be used on any
other changes in your working conditions, ask for a rep immediately.
The Agency has a legal obligation to comply." But the memo also says
the overall battle won't be won by individual members discussing their
fashion challenges. "One person alone can not change the course the
agency has decided to take," the memo says. "However, collectively we
can unpave their course and start a new road. I and the rest of your
elected leaders will need your help now more than ever."
************************************************** ***********************************************
Unbelievable! They're actually going to fight against their employer
for dictating what they must wear to work... Apparently their right to
look like bums in a professional setting has been violated, and the
union is going on the offensive!

Whenever we sit and wonder why the Bush Administration has been pushing
ATC privatization so hard, all we must do is read articles like this
one. Imagine -- these folks are up in arms because they have to wear a
dress shirt to work! Can you imagine what must go on in those towers
when a supervisor actually needs something of substance accomplished?

The next time the union sends me one of their whiny spam-mails, asking
for help in the fight against privatization, I'm going to send them
this post. These so-called "civil servants" have done themselves (and
us) a terrible disservice by choosing this ridiculous issue to fight
about, and they have only increased the probability that we will see
ATC privatization.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I guess we Iowans have better-dressed bums than you do...

:-)


Why do you allow your employees to dress like bums?

"Viperdoc" wrote in message
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Jay:

Last time I saw you, you were wearing shorts only- no shoes or even a
shirt. (Of course, it was in a pool) In fact, I'm glad you kept your
shorts on.

Does this mean we should expect formal wear the next time we stay at your
place? Or, should everyone be naked?

Just a thought.

He was dressed like a bum! What a hypocrite!

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Emily" wrote in message
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Sometimes I work naked.
Hey, as long as we don't graduate to communicating with you with
telescreens...


The human body is a beautiful thing.


Not all of them.

wrote in message
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I am with Jay on this one, Years ago unions were a good thing to keep
miners from getting killed in the workplace. Now the unions motive is
to perpetuate their existance by working up supposable smart humans
over something that should be a No brainer. If I remember right the
adverage salary for a ATC worker this year was 72,500, with some raking
in 171,300. For that pay they shouldn't even contest not being able to
wear flip flops to work. What other profession can dress like that and
earn that kind of cash, well other then Jimmy Buffet.????


Have you ever seen a controller dressed like that?

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...

Computer programmers. We make that sort of money, and we sure as hell
don't have a mandatory retirement at 55 or whatever it is for them.


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"Jose" wrote in message
m...

If you're going to wear a kilt, be sure to wear it correctly.


My Scots-Irish heritage would allow nothing else.