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NAS Pensacola vulnerability IVAN
I am concerned that the National Museum of Naval Aviation in
Pensacola 1750 Radford Blvd. may be very vulnerable to Ivan that is currently projected to hit Pensacola. This is a fantastic musuem with many many priceless unique aircraft that appears (if I read the maps right) to be just barely above the surge level but perhaps not the waves that might be ten to twelve feet higher and it appears to have no protection from the Gulf as there is a gap in the barrier Islands in which waves are going to funnel through and head straight for the Museum. It is very close to the water. I have read that in the past the NAS has received significant hurricane damage. Can anyone reassure me that it can withstand a direct 4-5 hurricane hit without being devastated? There is no question that the area to the east of the museum is going to get severly flooded and perhaps wiped out if they get a direct hit as most of this area is vulnerable to the surge of even a category 2 hurricane. Anyone live there familiar with the Museum's exposure/protections to violent weather and high waves? And they just got "my" Brewster Buffalo there....it may have been better off staying in the quiet depths of that Russian lake. Al |
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In article , old hoodoo
wrote: I am concerned that the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola 1750 Radford Blvd. may be very vulnerable to Ivan that is currently projected to hit Pensacola. This is a fantastic musuem with many many priceless unique aircraft that appears (if I read the maps right) to be just barely above the surge level but perhaps not the waves that might be ten to twelve feet higher and it appears to have no protection from the Gulf as there is a gap in the barrier Islands in which waves are going to funnel through and head straight for the Museum. It is very close to the water. I have read that in the past the NAS has received significant hurricane damage. Can anyone reassure me that it can withstand a direct 4-5 hurricane hit without being devastated? There is no question that the area to the east of the museum is going to get severly flooded and perhaps wiped out if they get a direct hit as most of this area is vulnerable to the surge of even a category 2 hurricane. Anyone live there familiar with the Museum's exposure/protections to violent weather and high waves? And they just got "my" Brewster Buffalo there....it may have been better off staying in the quiet depths of that Russian lake. Al No fear to the museum from waves. The cut at the barrier island is actually a ways away (as is Pensacola bay) and the museum is further inland and higher (field is 33 feet IIRC) than you would think. Certainly wind and rain could do some damage but the building is pretty darn new and the building codes in Florida were instituted with Hurricanes in mind. When I was stationed there the one hurricane that came through I missed as I had to hurrivac a TA-4. Pugs |
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"old hoodoo" wrote in message ... I am concerned that the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola 1750 Radford Blvd. may be very vulnerable to Ivan that is currently projected to hit Pensacola. This is a fantastic musuem with many many priceless unique aircraft that appears (if I read the maps right) to be just barely above the surge level but perhaps not the waves that might be ten to twelve feet higher and it appears to have no protection from the Gulf as there is a gap in the barrier Islands in which waves are going to funnel through and head straight for the Museum. It is very close to the water. I have read that in the past the NAS has received significant hurricane damage. Can anyone reassure me that it can withstand a direct 4-5 hurricane hit without being devastated? There is no question that the area to the east of the museum is going to get severly flooded and perhaps wiped out if they get a direct hit as most of this area is vulnerable to the surge of even a category 2 hurricane. Anyone live there familiar with the Museum's exposure/protections to violent weather and high waves? And they just got "my" Brewster Buffalo there....it may have been better off staying in the quiet depths of that Russian lake. Al "Can anyone reassure me that it can withstand a direct 4-5 hurricane hit without being devastated? " NO! Cat.'s 4 and 5 are known as catastrophic for a reason, just hope it doesn't come ashore during high tide. T |
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No fear to the museum from waves. The cut at the barrier island is
actually a ways away (as is Pensacola bay) and the museum is further inland and higher (field is 33 feet IIRC) than you would think. Certainly wind and rain could do some damage but the building is pretty darn new and the building codes in Florida were instituted with Hurricanes in mind. Good news, but is the navy bound by civilian building codes? A hurrcane blew through Pensacola while I was in Preflight, more than half a century ago. Don't kow how strong it was; no names or strengths were assigned in those days. But we sat it out in old wood barracks, so I guess it wasn't too powerful. vince norris |
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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message ... No fear to the museum from waves. The cut at the barrier island is actually a ways away (as is Pensacola bay) and the museum is further inland and higher (field is 33 feet IIRC) than you would think. Certainly wind and rain could do some damage but the building is pretty darn new and the building codes in Florida were instituted with Hurricanes in mind. Good news, but is the navy bound by civilian building codes? No, But Public Works prefers to follow local code (and add to it as required) for obvoius reasons. Larry |
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"Allen Epps" wrote in message et... In article , old hoodoo wrote: I am concerned that the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola 1750 Radford Blvd. may be very vulnerable to Ivan that is currently projected to hit Pensacola. This is a fantastic musuem with many many priceless unique aircraft that appears (if I read the maps right) to be just barely above the surge level but perhaps not the waves that might be ten to twelve feet higher and it appears to have no protection from the Gulf as there is a gap in the barrier Islands in which waves are going to funnel through and head straight for the Museum. It is very close to the water. I have read that in the past the NAS has received significant hurricane damage. Can anyone reassure me that it can withstand a direct 4-5 hurricane hit without being devastated? There is no question that the area to the east of the museum is going to get severly flooded and perhaps wiped out if they get a direct hit as most of this area is vulnerable to the surge of even a category 2 hurricane. Anyone live there familiar with the Museum's exposure/protections to violent weather and high waves? And they just got "my" Brewster Buffalo there....it may have been better off staying in the quiet depths of that Russian lake. Al No fear to the museum from waves. The cut at the barrier island is actually a ways away (as is Pensacola bay) and the museum is further inland and higher (field is 33 feet IIRC) than you would think. Certainly wind and rain could do some damage but the building is pretty darn new and the building codes in Florida were instituted with Hurricanes in mind. When I was stationed there the one hurricane that came through I missed as I had to hurrivac a TA-4. Pugs There was a substantial hurricane down there that made a pretty good pass at the museum back about 2000. That was before I made my visit and it looked pretty good then. |
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It sure was prior to 2000. Actually the last hurricanes went through here
in August and October of 1995. Both mad landfall about 40 miles East of Pensacola proper, so about 65 miles from the museum. Haven't had one since. Ivan just might be the next one to hit here. Currently forecast to make landfall at the Perdido river (about 10 miles West of the museum). -- Les Matheson F-4C(WW)/D/E/G(WW), AC-130A, MC-130E WSO/EWO (ret) "John Keeney" wrote in message ... "Allen Epps" wrote in message et... In article , old hoodoo wrote: I am concerned that the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pensacola 1750 Radford Blvd. may be very vulnerable to Ivan that is currently projected to hit Pensacola. This is a fantastic musuem with many many priceless unique aircraft that appears (if I read the maps right) to be just barely above the surge level but perhaps not the waves that might be ten to twelve feet higher and it appears to have no protection from the Gulf as there is a gap in the barrier Islands in which waves are going to funnel through and head straight for the Museum. It is very close to the water. I have read that in the past the NAS has received significant hurricane damage. Can anyone reassure me that it can withstand a direct 4-5 hurricane hit without being devastated? There is no question that the area to the east of the museum is going to get severly flooded and perhaps wiped out if they get a direct hit as most of this area is vulnerable to the surge of even a category 2 hurricane. Anyone live there familiar with the Museum's exposure/protections to violent weather and high waves? And they just got "my" Brewster Buffalo there....it may have been better off staying in the quiet depths of that Russian lake. Al No fear to the museum from waves. The cut at the barrier island is actually a ways away (as is Pensacola bay) and the museum is further inland and higher (field is 33 feet IIRC) than you would think. Certainly wind and rain could do some damage but the building is pretty darn new and the building codes in Florida were instituted with Hurricanes in mind. When I was stationed there the one hurricane that came through I missed as I had to hurrivac a TA-4. Pugs There was a substantial hurricane down there that made a pretty good pass at the museum back about 2000. That was before I made my visit and it looked pretty good then. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 9/10/2004 |
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Pensacola News Journal now has aerial photos of NAS taken on 9/23.
http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/.../aerial1.shtml B. C. Ilfled |
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