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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
Bob Officer wrote in
: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:44:19 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Bob Officer wrote in m: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:37:04 +0000 (UTC), in alt.usenet.kooks, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: "Scott M. Kozel" wrote in : Government Shill #2 wrote: George wrote: I wonder in this example why did the Electra stall and spin? From my very first lessons it was drilled into my head by all my instructors "WHEN THE ENGINE FAILS GET THE NOSE DOWN AND FLY THE AIRPLANE!" I wonder why the Electra didn't remain in a (somewhat) straight & level attitude? Was the crew too busy, confused, alarmed, to fly/glide the airplane? ISTR from reading Air Disasters by Macarthur Jobs, that the Electra crashed because the birds took out both engines on one side and the asymmetric thrust of the remaining engines could not be corrected by the available rudder authority. I may be wrong. It was a long time ago that I read about it. Plus the fact that it happened right after takeoff when it was just above stall speed. It wouldn't have been just above stal speed, it would have been just above V2 whihc would have been at least VSO 1.2 http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=19601004-0 A few seconds after taking off from runway 05, the Electra struck a flock of starlings. A number of these birds were ingested in engine no.1, 2 and 4. Engine no. 1 was shut down and the prop feathered. Shortly after that the no. 2 and 4 engines experienced a substantial momentary loss of power. This caused the plane to yaw to the left and decelerate to stall speed. The left wing then dropped, the nose pitched up and the L-188 rolled left into a spin and fell almost vertically into the water. PROBABLE CAUSE: "The unique and critical sequence of the loss and recovery of engine power following bird ingestion, resulting in loss of airspeed and control during takeoff. " Loss of airspeed due to the loss of three engines. The HP woudl have been attempting to maintain altitude with a speed trade and no thrust to spare. He would have entually hit VMC and rolled doing this. Just like Concorde.. No one can fault Scully. He has exactly the same number of take offs and landings. That he swam away from his last with no loss passengers and crew is a good thing. At the end of the day, tha's all that counts. There are those who would try and tamper with success, though. Evel fjukkers. We have an obscene name for them, so if any reader is of a timid disposition, they had best look away now. We call them.. Management pilots. We have those too on the railroad. They are generally called Accountants. At least they don;'t pretend to be engineers! Bertie |
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