NBC News Attempt To Discredit GA

"C Kingsbury" wrote in message
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Matt Whiting wrote in message
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C Kingsbury wrote:

I strongly doubt these guys had any intention of pulling their toys
out in flight, but rather simply wanted to prove they had been able to
get them on. Even a reporter couldn't be that stupid.

-cwk.

Don't underestimate reporters. They were stupid enough to put
explosives in a Chevy pickup and blow it up claiming it was a defective
fuel tank design.

That was fraud, not stupidity. They used Estes model rocket engines
IIRC and it worked great. Stupidity would be if they blew themselves
up while wiring it.

No...that would be "blessed".

"Al Marzo" wrote in message
news
This story HAS been verified and addressed by Phil Boyer of AOPA.
Check their webpage for Phil's comment and challenge. Also, you
should email your feelings of disgust to

In spite of getting caught with their hands in the proverbial cookie jar, NBC
still felt the need to stir the pot. See their Aug. 13 article here titled:
"FBI: Al-Qaida could use helicopters, limos"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5626850/ .

Which offers the following flight of fancy: "...Helicopters might also be used
to spread chemical or biological agents in the ventilation systems of high-rise
buildings..."

They did not have the professional ethics or common decency to bother
mentioning the 100% relevant fact that they had tried to penetrate a helicopter
operation and failed miserably.

No polite term could possible describe my feelings for NBC right now. I
guess I will just have to settle for "****ing Lying Scumbags".

Vaughn

No polite term could possible describe my feelings for NBC right now.

I think AOPA should organize a huge protest and demonstration against the "War
on General Aviation" being conducted by the media and by the ignoramus
politicians.





www.Rosspilot.com

Personally I think you have made valid and thoughtful points with some of
your suggestions here. Sure we can all agree this wasn't the brightest thing
for these two to do, but let's look further into your comments to find a
solution. I'm not saying your solution will end all of this GA animosity we
seem to be facing, but it sure could go a long way.

--
Jim Carter
"C Kingsbury" wrote in message
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If you run a flight school, or are an independent CFI, drop a note to
your local news organizations and offer a free lesson/ride or two to
any interested parties. I bet you'll get takers, and do it at least
once a year. They'll get an easy feel-good story out of it they can
use anytime, and you'll go into their rolodex as a source to call when
they're doing an aviation story. Bonus points if you have a female
and/or minority CFI to hook them up with, or can show them students
who aren't 40-year-old white male stockbrokers. Take them for a walk
around the field and introduce them to the mechanic, other operators,
etc, show them how the airport creates economic activity for the
community. Introduce them to a 40yo stockbroker who flies sick kids
and their families in his Bonanza for Angel Flight. Hell, you might
even get a new student out of it.

Most reporters do not investigate, they report. A few positive hours
one afternoon will do a lot more to improve the quality of news than a
stack of angry letters. These days we need all the help we can get.

Best,
-cwk.

Are TFR's requested by the individual or are they a matter of policy when
the President is in place? I thought they were a matter of policy and not
his personal choice.

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Jim Carter
"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:


It makes a lot of sense when you consider that both the liberal media
and
the Democrats have been saying that Bush is ignoring important terrorism
issues. If Kerry is elected, expect a lot more restrictions on GA.


Considering the fact that, unlike Bush, Kerry is not requesting pop-up
TFRs everywhere he campaigns, this is a pretty wrongheaded statement.

If you or I attempted a similar stunt, we would still be locked up.

Charge them with at least wasting police time.

Ardna


"Vaughn" wrote in message
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"Al Marzo" wrote in message
news
This story HAS been verified and addressed by Phil Boyer of AOPA.
Check their webpage for Phil's comment and challenge. Also, you
should email your feelings of disgust to

In spite of getting caught with their hands in the proverbial cookie jar,
NBC
still felt the need to stir the pot. See their Aug. 13 article here
titled:
"FBI: Al-Qaida could use helicopters, limos"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5626850/ .

Which offers the following flight of fancy: "...Helicopters might also be
used
to spread chemical or biological agents in the ventilation systems of
high-rise
buildings..."

They did not have the professional ethics or common decency to bother
mentioning the 100% relevant fact that they had tried to penetrate a
helicopter
operation and failed miserably.

No polite term could possible describe my feelings for NBC right now.
I
guess I will just have to settle for "****ing Lying Scumbags".

Vaughn

"MyWay" screamed in message
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If you or I attempted a similar stunt, we would still be locked up.

Charge them with at least wasting police time.

Ardna

E-mail NBC's advertisers and tell them you are angry and you aren't buying
any more of their cereal or viagra or soap suds because you are disgusted
with the disgusting cussable SOB's.

Politicians seeking re-election are not nearly so frightened of the majority
as they are of angry minorities who have the politician in their crosshairs.


"Vaughn" fumed in message
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"Al Marzo" howled in message
news
This story HAS been verified and addressed by Phil Boyer of AOPA.
Check their webpage for Phil's comment and challenge. Also, you

Jim Carter wrote:

Are TFR's requested by the individual or are they a matter of policy when
the President is in place? I thought they were a matter of policy and not
his personal choice.

As far as the president is concerned, they are set by policy of the Secret Service.
There is some feeling that the president could order the SS to reduce the size of the
TFRs, but I don't know if that's true. In the case of other candidates (such as
Kerry), they are entitled to the same protection as the president after nomination if
they request it. So far, Kerry has not done so, so TFRs are not being provided for
him. I don't know how far this sort of thing applies to third-party candidates (such
as Nader).

George Patterson
If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people
he gives it to.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Jim Carter wrote:

Are TFR's requested by the individual or are they a matter of policy
when
the President is in place? I thought they were a matter of policy and
not
his personal choice.

As far as the president is concerned, they are set by policy of the Secret
Service.
There is some feeling that the president could order the SS to reduce the
size of the
TFRs, but I don't know if that's true.

Why wouldn't it be? The President is their boss. He hired them. He can fire
them. In fact, some Presidents have made a habit of it. Roosevelt, for
example, was greatly entertained by making his escort run along behind his
wheelchair. He even interfered with Secret Service dress codes in Key West.

If the President didn't like what the Secret Service was doing, he could
simply change it with an executive order. The current President does not
care and probably does not even know how disruptive his security is, or he
would change it. Unfortunately, the only thing about security that he knows
is what his own security advisors tell him, and these people are selected on
the basis of their paranoia.

Nah. They should call Fox News or CNN and get them to blow the whistle on
NBC.

To Fox, it will seem like they are discrediting the competition.

To the rest of the world it will be that GA is OK after all...



ospam (Rosspilot) wrote in
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No polite term could possible describe my feelings for NBC right now.

I think AOPA should organize a huge protest and demonstration against
the "War on General Aviation" being conducted by the media and by the
ignoramus politicians.





www.Rosspilot.com