FSS on IFR Enroute charts

When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Also, it says the FSS name below and outside the navaid box, with the
L-shaped sides. After reading the chart symbols, it says this is
remoted to a navaid site, does that mean to that VOR it's associated
with? I'm looking at L-2 by Sacramento (Rancho FSS)...

-----Original Message-----
From: kevmor ]
Posted At: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:02 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
Conversation: FSS on IFR Enroute charts
Subject: FSS on IFR Enroute charts

When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Also, it says the FSS name below and outside the navaid box, with the
L-shaped sides. After reading the chart symbols, it says this is
remoted to a navaid site, does that mean to that VOR it's associated
with? I'm looking at L-2 by Sacramento (Rancho FSS)...

It means the same as when you see it on the VFR charts

In a previous article, "kevmor" said:
When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Those indications are relative to the guys who own it, ie them not us.

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So it means they receive on the frequency with the R and I'd listen
over the VOR?

Also, in the ARTCC blue boxes, it has all capitals of the center name,
and then is that the city name below it? Why put the city name?

On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Jim Carter" wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: kevmor ]
Posted At: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:02 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
Conversation: FSS on IFR Enroute charts
Subject: FSS on IFR Enroute charts

When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Also, it says the FSS name below and outside the navaid box, with the
L-shaped sides. After reading the chart symbols, it says this is
remoted to a navaid site, does that mean to that VOR it's associated
with? I'm looking at L-2 by Sacramento (Rancho FSS)...It means the same as when you see it on the VFR charts

On 01/29/07 15:23, kevmor wrote:
So it means they receive on the frequency with the R and I'd listen
over the VOR?

That's right.

Note that you still have the "general" FSS frequencies, which they don't
print on the charts (because they are basically available everywhere).


Also, in the ARTCC blue boxes, it has all capitals of the center name,
and then is that the city name below it? Why put the city name?

In addition to the other responses you'll get here, the enroute charts
have a user's guide (along with what is printed on the chart margins).

Have a look he

http://naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/aero_guide

You can order the book, or download the desired PDF file(s).



On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Jim Carter" wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: kevmor ]
Posted At: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:02 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
Conversation: FSS on IFR Enroute charts
Subject: FSS on IFR Enroute charts

When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Also, it says the FSS name below and outside the navaid box, with the
L-shaped sides. After reading the chart symbols, it says this is
remoted to a navaid site, does that mean to that VOR it's associated
with? I'm looking at L-2 by Sacramento (Rancho FSS)...It means the same as when you see it on the VFR charts




--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

Thanks all, yeah I'm currently looking over that user's guide.

On Jan 29, 3:34 pm, Mark Hansen wrote:
On 01/29/07 15:23, kevmor wrote:

So it means they receive on the frequency with the R and I'd listen
over the VOR?That's right.

Note that you still have the "general" FSS frequencies, which they don't
print on the charts (because they are basically available everywhere).



Also, in the ARTCC blue boxes, it has all capitals of the center name,
and then is that the city name below it? Why put the city name?In addition to the other responses you'll get here, the enroute charts
have a user's guide (along with what is printed on the chart margins).

Have a look he

http://naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/aero_guide

You can order the book, or download the desired PDF file(s).





On Jan 29, 3:11 pm, "Jim Carter" wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: kevmor ]
Posted At: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:02 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
Conversation: FSS on IFR Enroute charts
Subject: FSS on IFR Enroute charts

When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Also, it says the FSS name below and outside the navaid box, with the
L-shaped sides. After reading the chart symbols, it says this is
remoted to a navaid site, does that mean to that VOR it's associated
with? I'm looking at L-2 by Sacramento (Rancho FSS)...It means the same as when you see it on the VFR charts--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

Look at the legend panel on the sectional. It says "R - Receive only." Also,
read the legend pages in any Airport Facilities Directory under the heading
"Communications," It's amazing what you can learn by reading legend pages.
The AS/FD answers your question by saying "122.1 is the primary receive-only
frequency at VORs. 122.05, 122.15, and 123.6 are assigned at selected VORs
meeting certain criteria." (No word on what those criteria are.)

Bob Gardner



"kevmor" wrote in message
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When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Also, it says the FSS name below and outside the navaid box, with the
L-shaped sides. After reading the chart symbols, it says this is
remoted to a navaid site, does that mean to that VOR it's associated
with? I'm looking at L-2 by Sacramento (Rancho FSS)...

On 01/29/07 15:42, kevmor wrote:
Thanks all, yeah I'm currently looking over that user's guide.

It seems rather ridiculous at first. Who could remember all that?!?

But in reality, once you've read through it, you'll remember that a
particular symbol or way of writing information on the chart was
described and you'll know where to look it up.

It can be a pretty dry read, though, that's for sure ;-\

--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

All true, except that none of those references actually specify that
it's the FSS that receives on that frequency rather than the pilot.
It may be obvious once you know it, but until then it is a question
almost every pilot faces-- hopefully not at the instant that he really
needs to know it, because at that point it's almost impossible to find
it!

On Jan 29, 5:52 pm, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
Look at the legend panel on the sectional. It says "R - Receive only." Also,
read the legend pages in any Airport Facilities Directory under the heading
"Communications," It's amazing what you can learn by reading legend pages.
The AS/FD answers your question by saying "122.1 is the primary receive-only
frequency at VORs. 122.05, 122.15, and 123.6 are assigned at selected VORs
meeting certain criteria." (No word on what those criteria are.)

Bob Gardner

"kevmor" wrote in oglegroups.com...



When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Also, it says the FSS name below and outside the navaid box, with the
L-shaped sides. After reading the chart symbols, it says this is
remoted to a navaid site, does that mean to that VOR it's associated
with? I'm looking at L-2 by Sacramento (Rancho FSS)...- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Aw c'mon, John. The book is the Airport/Facility Directory, and a VOR is a
facility. It clearly says that 122.1 is the primary receive-only freq at
VORs. How could anyone interpret that to mean that the pilot receives on
122.1?

Bob

"John Clonts" wrote in message
oups.com...
All true, except that none of those references actually specify that
it's the FSS that receives on that frequency rather than the pilot.
It may be obvious once you know it, but until then it is a question
almost every pilot faces-- hopefully not at the instant that he really
needs to know it, because at that point it's almost impossible to find
it!

On Jan 29, 5:52 pm, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
Look at the legend panel on the sectional. It says "R - Receive only."
Also,
read the legend pages in any Airport Facilities Directory under the
heading
"Communications," It's amazing what you can learn by reading legend
pages.
The AS/FD answers your question by saying "122.1 is the primary
receive-only
frequency at VORs. 122.05, 122.15, and 123.6 are assigned at selected
VORs
meeting certain criteria." (No word on what those criteria are.)

Bob Gardner

"kevmor" wrote in
oglegroups.com...



When looking at a VOR navaid box on an enroute chart, and it says the
FSS station frequency on top of the box, such as 122.1R, does that
mean receive only for them on that frequency or receive only for the
pilot? Does the pilot listen on the VOR and transmit on 122.1
(receive only for them)?

Also, it says the FSS name below and outside the navaid box, with the
L-shaped sides. After reading the chart symbols, it says this is
remoted to a navaid site, does that mean to that VOR it's associated
with? I'm looking at L-2 by Sacramento (Rancho FSS)...- Hide quoted
text -- Show quoted text -