Bible-beater pilots

I've long equated Religion with Mathematics. Each begins with a
hypothesis that cannot be proved or disproved, and everything builds
on that assumption.

42, None of the Above, Order N log N, and only if there's chocolate.

That pretty well sums up most questions of life as well as
Computer Science PhD exams.

Hi Jay,
Like you, I was raised Hyper-Catholic in Iowa. I'm honored to
stay that I am a Christian and still Catholic. My bride is Protestant
and also devoutly Christian. I must honestly say that I still
struggle on a daily basis as much as any person who doesn't claim
strong religious convictions. I'm flawed because I'm human. I
personally feel uncomforable with being so overt that I appear to be
pushing my own beliefs and practices on others. Everyone is different
and their methods of evangalism reflect their own personalities. I'd
just like to try and explain your lunch companions' actions as I
understand them.
They feel a strong conviction to share the Lord's message with
folks who don't believe. They are going to a casino rather than a
church just as Jesus hung out with tax collectors and other 'sinners'
that the organized religious leaders viewed as not worthy. I imagine
that your lunch companions felt the same way about talking to you
about Christ as they would about warning you to prevent you from
accidentally stepping into traffic. You may not see it that way, and
most of the other poster's either.
I don't intend to pass judgement on others, as I fail on a pretty
regular basis. However, I also don't think I should avoid telling
others that I am a Christian for fear that they might be offended.
Don't be surprized if someday your own children are plying you with
the same style evangalism you experienced in the casino. God works in
ways we don't often understand.

Brian Cox
Pilot, and (I guess) Bible Beater

"Jim" wrote in message
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| CJ, you're starting to scare me
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I trust that the Middle Earth Jay Honeck will be somwhat more competent than
Butterbur. :-)

"Blanche Cohen" wrote in message
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I've long equated Religion with Mathematics. Each begins with a
hypothesis that cannot be proved or disproved, and everything builds
on that assumption.


There is damn little in religion that can be proved or disproved.

These days I'm practicing Zen Judaism.

You sit zazen and kvetch all the time.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Blanche Cohen" wrote in message
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I've long equated Religion with Mathematics. Each begins with a
hypothesis that cannot be proved or disproved, and everything builds
on that assumption.


There is damn little in religion that can be proved or disproved.


According to the Hitchhiker's Guide, the Babel fish was put forth as an example for the non-existence of God:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so
therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. Q.E.D.."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra
crossing.

"Robert Perkins" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:00:56 +0100, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

That was the case in the vast majority of wars, I would say. Of course,
in most, religion was just a cover for power mongering - but that seems
to be common in religion anyway.

Given that power mongering exists with or without religion (unless the
last 100 years of secular democracies descending into fascist or
communist dictatorships is supposed to be set aside?), it seems
particularly fallacious to suppose that because many religions contain
power mongerers, that it is the cause of the belief system that they
monger power.

Rob


Bulls*it. The belief system is all about power whether it is religious or
secular, Christian or Communist. You have one group of people who KNOW they
are right and therefore KNOW they have the authority because they are right
to try and impose their beliefs on others.

At this point I think the issue is less of "witnessing" or
prostelyzing (sp? can't find it in my dictionary) and more an
issue for Miss Manners. I was brought up *never* to discuss
religion with strangers. I consider people who want to foster
their ideas and beliefs upon me to be rude and ill-mannered. Jay
was being more than gracious by being polite and considerate.
The lunch companions were being rude when Jay made it clear
that he was uncomfortable with the topics.

Of course there are times when it's perfectly permissable to
just say "You are ruining my delightful day with my wife, and
ruining my lunch" then go to another table.

There's a car in the local complex that has the bumper sticker
"My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter".

I keep wanting to go up them and ask if they work for
Morrie Goldstein.

(*chortle*)