Common instruments on small aircraft

Stefan wrote in news:aba8b$453a578c$54497ec8$24035
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Mxsmanic schrieb:

Are small GA aircraft often equipped with things like autopilots,
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The Baron I fly in simulation is equipped with these

Must be real fun to fly MSFS on autopilot...

Stefan


Only when in 16x mode

Judah wrote in
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Stefan wrote in
news:aba8b$453a578c$54497ec8$24035 @news.hispeed.ch:

Mxsmanic schrieb:

Are small GA aircraft often equipped with things like autopilots,
...
The Baron I fly in simulation is equipped with these

Must be real fun to fly MSFS on autopilot...

Stefan


Only when in 16x mode


Oh, and Manic, so you don't have to ask... No, the GA Aircraft that I fly
do not have a 16x mode button which causes time to travel at 16x normal. I
heard that NASA and the Military had worked on one in the early 70s, but
the results were just too upsetting to tolerate because they had limited
control of the speed at which time travelled. All three times that they
tried it, the Pilots of that craft found themselves on a planet that was
controlled by talking Apes.

"Damn them!!! Damn them all to hell!!!"

"Judah" wrote

Oh, and Manic, so you don't have to ask... No, the GA Aircraft that I fly
do not have a 16x mode button which causes time to travel at 16x normal. I
heard that NASA and the Military had worked on one in the early 70s, but
the results were just too upsetting to tolerate because they had limited
control of the speed at which time travelled. All three times that they
tried it, the Pilots of that craft found themselves on a planet that was
controlled by talking Apes.

"Damn them!!! Damn them all to hell!!!"

LOL! Perfect. You anticipated the next question, and saved an extra post!

Sad, but true.

Still, there are those among us who say he is asking good questions, and to not
discourage him. Hmmmm.
--
Jim in NC

Matt Barrow writes:

It's much more fun driving, say, a Nissan 350Z, than slot cars or go-karts.

An interesting analogy. Is it more fun to drive the Nissan on city
streets in traffic, following all the rules, or is it more fun to ride
go-karts on a private track where you can go faster and maneuver more
and where there are fewer unpleasant rules?

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Judah writes:

The first plane I trained in was as basic as they get - one radio, one NAV.
It was adequate as a trainer, and even for renting (although I bought a
handheld GPS after I started renting more frequently). But they sold that
flight school and I don't think you can rent those planes anymore.

I think I'd be worried in a plane like that.

From what I hear, they now have a
couple of G1000 planes as well that they rent out with a special checkout
and for a slightly higher price as well, but I haven't flown them.

Hmm ... I'd be worried in a plane like that, too, but not for the same
reasons.

Then I joined a flight club. All the planes in the flight club have similar
equipment - 2 nav/coms, Autopilot, GPS. The club has 2 Archers, 3 Arrows,
and 3 Bonanzas, with nearly identical panels. The Bonanzas, as "travel"
planes, have some add-ons like HSIs, and one has a StrikeFinder. The
airframes aren't brand new like at the Cessna Dealer, but they are clean,
well maintained, include modern avionics, and the price and availability
are worth it.

Those sound nice.

I have never flown with a Radar Altimiter, nor even seen one. Based on your
messages, I believe your Baron simulation does not accurately reflect the
typical flight experience of a Private Pilot in the US. Perhaps it is
modeled after some other flight experience.

The Baron simulation seems to accurately simulate Barons, but from
what I understand, the Baron is an upscale aircraft with a high price
tag, and thus is probably not representative of other private
aircraft. The A36 simulation includes similar avionics (better
weather radar but no radar altimeter), which I suspect is better
equipment than many of the real ones have.

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Stefan writes:

Must be real fun to fly MSFS on autopilot...

I enjoy it, especially in large aircraft, and autopilot is a great
advantage on long trips.

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So is the "speed up the world 32 times" option. I'm waiting for my A&P to
get a bid for one on my real airplane...


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Stefan writes:

Must be real fun to fly MSFS on autopilot...

I enjoy it, especially in large aircraft, and autopilot is a great
advantage on long trips.

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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:57:24 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Matt Barrow writes:

It's much more fun driving, say, a Nissan 350Z, than slot cars or go-karts.

An interesting analogy. Is it more fun to drive the Nissan on city
streets in traffic, following all the rules, or is it more fun to ride
go-karts on a private track where you can go faster and maneuver more
and where there are fewer unpleasant rules?

If we're restricted to those choices, the Nissan would be more fun.
You can go to the beach, the mountains, the movies, the museum, other
interesting places where you can see things and meet other people. And
if you do meet someone, the Nissan has a place for her to sit.

Same thing for an airplane. An airplane can take you to all sorts of
interesting, educational, entertaining, profitable places.

With the simulator, no matter where you go, there you are.

RK Henry

Steven Barnes writes:

So is the "speed up the world 32 times" option.

Agreed. It's one of the advantages of simulation. Although it does
seem a bit like cheating.

In practice, I usually just go on flights that are of an acceptable
duration in real time, and then fly them in real time. It's true that
small aircraft take a long time to get anywhere compared to large
jets--but then again they often seem to be much faster than cars (even
though their actual speed over the ground isn't that much greater).

For example, driving from Phoenix to the Grand Canyon takes hours, but
I can be there in about 45 minutes in a Baron.

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To see what is common in REAL aircraft, see on-line ads for
selling REAL airplanes and check-out the manufactures'
webpages.
Beech Baron and Bonanza are the top of the price and quality
in piston airplanes. The latest avionics are very common.
On the other-hand, a 50 year old Bonanza or 30 year old
Baron may have been updated with the latest, or keep stock
as a classic.
A J3 Cub barely has instruments or the capacity to carry the
weight and probably doesn't have an electrical system to
supply power. A new Legacy Cub may have a "glass cockpit"
using panel mounted hand-held units.



"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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| Recently, Mxsmanic posted:
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| Are small GA aircraft often equipped with things like
autopilots, GPS
| units, and EHSI displays? What about a radar altimeter?
The Baron I
| fly in simulation is equipped with these (as is the
A36), but fancy
| instruments are free in simulation, so I'm wondering how
likely one is
| to have them in real life.
|
| You can have anything you want in a small aircraft if you
have the money
| and are willing to accept the trade-offs.
|
| Neil
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|