c-152 rudder???

i really need to start this by saying i know absolutely nothing new or
bad about any aircraft. i'm sure not trying to start any rumors. in
fact, this may be something that y'all have already chewed on but...

the outfit i rent from is just down the taxiway from "air aces" at
houston-hooks where they've had a horrible time with wings coming off
airplanes lately.

in talking about that, one of the people at my base....not at "aces"...
told me they have been hearing about faa looking into a structural
problem with c-152 rudders. since they've got several and since i'm
almost certainly going to be buying one in the next few months we're
kinda curious about what might be going on.

anybody???


dan

houstondan wrote:
i really need to start this by saying i know absolutely nothing new or
bad about any aircraft. i'm sure not trying to start any rumors. in
fact, this may be something that y'all have already chewed on but...

the outfit i rent from is just down the taxiway from "air aces" at
houston-hooks where they've had a horrible time with wings coming off
airplanes lately.

in talking about that, one of the people at my base....not at "aces"...
told me they have been hearing about faa looking into a structural
problem with c-152 rudders. since they've got several and since i'm
almost certainly going to be buying one in the next few months we're
kinda curious about what might be going on.

anybody???


dan

A non-scientific review of NTSB records for a few years done moments ago
by me looking for C152 AND "rudder" shows no cases of rudder failure or
cracking of the rudder structure/attach points in any of the accident
synopses.

One overriding theme, however, appears to be inadequate use of rudder to
keep from running off the runway.

Maybe theres a problem, but its not being manifested by accidents.

On a side note... why do you WANT to buy a C152?

Dave

the c-152 seems like a pretty sensible way to get into my first
airplane. the way i see the g.a. business overall, especially with the
feds helping so many people decide that commercial flight just ain't
worth the trouble, a good condition c-152 should at least hold it's
value (adjusted for engine-time) and may actually appreciate in the
future. there's parts & mechanics everywhere you land . i'm just
getting started thinking about buying so my mind isn't anywhere near
made up but that's what seems to be the best idea at the moment.

i'm certainly open for suggestions. probably months away but certainly
not a year.

dan

houstondan wrote:

the c-152 seems like a pretty sensible way to get into my first
airplane. the way i see the g.a. business overall, especially with the
feds helping so many people decide that commercial flight just ain't
worth the trouble, a good condition c-152 should at least hold it's
value (adjusted for engine-time) and may actually appreciate in the
future. there's parts & mechanics everywhere you land . i'm just
getting started thinking about buying so my mind isn't anywhere near
made up but that's what seems to be the best idea at the moment.

i'm certainly open for suggestions. probably months away but certainly
not a year.

dan


My suggestion is get your ticket in the flight school's aircraft, then
buy something that will suit your mission. From a payload, speed and
range standpoint, unless you are into sightseeing alone or with a small
friend.. the aircraft (150/152) comes up short in my book.

Granted.. its a fine plane. I learned in one. I still rent and fly one
on occasion (airwork, short hop, etc).. but when I want to travel,
things like a Grumman, a 172, a 177, a Mooney or a Cherokee spring to
mind. And thats the impression I am getting from you, with your
reference to commercial flight - you intend to travel.

Granted this is just my opinion. I'm not even an owner. At the moment I
am involved with building a velocity (experimental Canard), but before,
when I was looking for my own aircraft, I was tending towards 4 seats,
retractable gear and up to 200 hp... Figure our what you want to do with
aircraft ownership, then get something that will fill that need best
(but within your means).

Dave

"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
the c-152 seems like a pretty sensible way to get into my first
airplane. the way i see the g.a. business overall, especially with the
feds helping so many people decide that commercial flight just ain't
worth the trouble, a good condition c-152 should at least hold it's
value (adjusted for engine-time) and may actually appreciate in the
future. there's parts & mechanics everywhere you land . i'm just
getting started thinking about buying so my mind isn't anywhere near
made up but that's what seems to be the best idea at the moment.

i'm certainly open for suggestions. probably months away but certainly
not a year.

dan


There's not a thing wrong with a C-152; if you are going to be flying alone
or with an occasional passenger, it's the perfect plane for you. It's
almost idiotproof, has very gentle stall characteristics, sips fuel at a
modest 8-9 gph, is a proven design and can be bought for a song in
comparison to other aircraft.

I hope to purchase a C-150 in 2006 because that's all the airplane that I
need - anything more is a waste of money in my opinion.

--
www.geocities.com/ralphsnart2004/index.html

I hope to purchase a C-150 in 2006 because that's all the airplane that I
need - anything more is a waste of money in my opinion.

And so it begins.

I bought a Warrior in '98, thinking "I'll never need another plane" -- then
my little kids became big kids.

My advice: Buy the biggest, fastest plane you can afford -- cuz you WILL
want/need something bigger/faster than a 150 in a surprisingly short
timeframe. Selling and buying an airplane is such a gigantic PIA that you
really want to reduce the number of times you do it as much as possible.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:QxBvd.191887$V41.53370@attbi_s52...

My advice: Buy the biggest, fastest plane you can afford -- cuz you WILL
want/need something bigger/faster than a 150 in a surprisingly short
timeframe.

Well, a few year back I bought a Baron 58 and wound up trading down to a
B36TC because it didn't make sense running all that hardware for two or
three people at most. :~(


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

The Rebel wrote:

..... sips fuel at a modest 8-9 gph, .....

If your 152 is burning this much gas, either someone stuck an O-320 in it or you
need to learn what that red knob is for.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

G.R. Patterson III wrote:
The Rebel wrote:

..... sips fuel at a modest 8-9 gph, .....

If your 152 is burning this much gas, either someone stuck an O-320 in it or you
need to learn what that red knob is for.

In our C152 (which BTW is faster than our 172) I planned 7 but averaged
5 gph...

I think the original concern regards tail corrosion/cracks on
C150/1502's, I don't think the FAA has formerly released an AD but its
an advised inspection during an annual/service inspection. If the plane
has always been hangered its of less of a factor than if its always
outside in the weather. This came about after several 150's lost their
tails in flight or cracked brackets and corroded parts where found (4 in
the 1970s, 6 in the 1980s, and 12 in the 1990s)...

http://avweb.com/newswire/9_41b/briefs/185836-1.html
http://www.eaa.org/communications/ea...30924_acs.html

AD's:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/CurrentADFRMakeModel!OpenView&Start=1&Count=200&Ex pand=104.5#104.5
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/CurrentADFRMakeModel!OpenView&Start=1&Count=200&Ex pand=104.18#104.18

I was recently at OMNI near Baton Rouge and there was a C150 for $12k
there...

G.R. Patterson III wrote:

The Rebel wrote:

..... sips fuel at a modest 8-9 gph, .....


If your 152 is burning this much gas, either someone stuck an O-320 in it or you
need to learn what that red knob is for.

Yah, should burn 6 or better. It only burns like 10 with everything
firewalled.