CFI without commercial?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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True enough , but doesn't "for hire" carry the implication that some
actual money must change hands? :-)))


I think bartering would still be considered for hire. But if I instruct
my son in my own airplane and receive nothing in return but the joy of
sharing something I love with my child it is definitely not "for hire".

It wasn't meant to be a serious comment Steven :-)
DH

"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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You can get paid all you want instructing,

Now THIS is welcome news!!! :-)))

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired
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Its not considerd flying for hire. That is why you only need a class 3
medical. I suspect that the reason you need a commercial certificate is
because the CFI ticket gives you the priv of training commercial
applicants. I believe the new sport pilot CFI ticket does not require a
commercial but also does not allow you to train commercial apps.
-Robert

True enough , but doesn't "for hire" carry the implication that some actual
money must change hands? :-)))

Not the way I heard it.

Jose
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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What are the rules nowadays for getting your CFI? Is a commercial
rating required before you can become a CFI? I imagine it is, since
you're "flying for hire"...?


A flight instructor certificate requires either a commercial pilot or
airline transport pilot certificate. You're only flying for hire if
you charge for your instruction.



I know you *used* to be able to get your CFI without an instrument
rating, but I understand that is no longer allowed, right?


Right.




Don't know how much it really applies here, but it's interesting that
you CAN get a Sport Pilot Instructor Cert without either a Commercial or
ATP.


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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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A flight instructor certificate requires either a commercial pilot
or airline transport pilot certificate.

Correct.

You're only flying for hire if you charge for your instruction.

Wrong. You are not flying for hire while giving flight instruction.
You don't even need a current medical unless you're acting as a
required crewmember.

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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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"Bravo8500" wrote in message ups.com...

You can get paid all you want instructing,

Now THIS is welcome news!!! :-)))

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired
dhenriquestrashatearthlinktrashdotnet
(take out the trash :-)




Now that is funny!

"John Godwin" wrote in message
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Wrong. You are not flying for hire while giving flight instruction.


You are if you're being compensated for it.



You don't even need a current medical unless you're acting as a
required crewmember.


Irrelevant.

"Bravo8500" wrote in message
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You can get paid all you want instructing, and don't even have to have
a medical unless you are acting as PIC, then only a 3rd class. You not
acting as a commercial pilot instructing, even though the regs say you
need it for the exam.


If you're being paid for instructing you're acting as a commercial pilot.

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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It wasn't meant to be a serious comment Steven :-)


So responses are not allowed?