"Rolling" to ATC

Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

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Are you sure you don't mean trolling?

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Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

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None at all.

On Feb 4, 12:59 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

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If your takeoff clearance includes "no delay" due to landing traffic
behind you, then the "rolling" information could be of some use to the
controller. However, this is not something that is widely used. I
suspect it is because the controller cannot simply rely on your
transmission for his decision to issue a landing clearance.

If the controller's vision is good enough for a second-class medical, it is
good enough to see if you are rolling or not.

Bob Gardner

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On Feb 4, 12:59 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

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If your takeoff clearance includes "no delay" due to landing traffic
behind you, then the "rolling" information could be of some use to the
controller. However, this is not something that is widely used. I
suspect it is because the controller cannot simply rely on your
transmission for his decision to issue a landing clearance.

On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:59:26 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

Are we talking barrel or aileron rolls?

Don

On Feb 5, 6:59 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Under what conditions, if any, would you explicitly tell ATC that you
are rolling, that is, actually rolling on the runway for take-off?

I hear this used occasionally, but I don't know if there are any
formal circumstances that merit it, or if it is just at pilot
discretion, or what. It is normally independent of the readback of
the take-off clearance (which precedes it), although sometimes I hear
"Rolling" without a readback of the clearance.

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In this country (NZ) we seem to hear 'rolling' from people who have
been trained at uncontrolled airfields and seem to bring that with
them when flying into controlled airfields. The rest of us don't
generally say it until we get to an uncontrolled airfield..

Bob Gardner writes:

If the controller's vision is good enough for a second-class medical, it is
good enough to see if you are rolling or not.

Then why do some pilots say it? Or is this one of those insoluble
issues like whether or not to say "as filed" when asking for
clearance?

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Don Tuite writes:

Are we talking barrel or aileron rolls?

Rolling in the sense of wheels rolling on the runway, as the aircraft
prepares to take off.

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chris writes:

In this country (NZ) we seem to hear 'rolling' from people who have
been trained at uncontrolled airfields and seem to bring that with
them when flying into controlled airfields. The rest of us don't
generally say it until we get to an uncontrolled airfield..

Do you say anything prior to the take-off? If so, what do you add by
saying "rolling"? (If not, I can understand why you'd say it,
although by the time you _are_ rolling, it's a bit late to warn anyone
who might be in your way.)

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