Why did Bush join the national guard?

From: (ArtKramr)
Date: 9/8/2004 1:43 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 9/8/2004 5:24 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: Ian MacLure
Date: 9/7/2004 9:36 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

(ArtKramr) wrote in
:

Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: (B2431)
Date: 9/7/2004 1:52 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I'll bet he saw more combat than you did and he flew C-54s.


A C-54 is not a combat aircraft. Seeing "action" implies that you have
done harm to the enemy. You can't do harm to the enemy in an unarmed

So being fired on multiple times doesn't count.
Taxiing in wearing substantial portions of your
deceased copilot and good friend doesn't count.
Having a second copilot killed during landing doesn't count.
Flying onto disputed airfields doesn't count?
Losing 20 ft of fuselage to an artillery round and flying whats
left of the airplane to Guam doesn't count?
So I guess whatever it was he was delivering under fire could not
have been that important.
Well, I'm glad you cleared that up.

I have a friend who was a C-47 driver on D-Day, dropped paras.
I guess what he did doesn't count.

A gentleman I sat next to in our town band went ashore with the
first wave on D-Day but he was only a doctor so I guess he doesn't
count.

airliner. Flying combat airccraft is one thing, Flying airliners is
something else.

Does the word tactical transport mean anything to you?
Do you know what day it is even?

IBM



There is the tip of the spear. Then there is everything else. The very
best are
at the tip of the spear. Where were you?

Then you must not have been at the "tip of the spear", being as you have
repeatedly proven to be anything but "the very best" (how can a pilot
washout call himself the "very best"?).

Brooks



Arthur Kramer



You weren't even good enough to make it to combat at all. How pathetic you
are
little boy hiding under a desk while a war raged and men fought.


Arthur Kramer


Eddie Slovik, George Lincol Rockwell, Tim McVeigh, Bennedict Arnold etc were
"good enough to make it to combat." Gee, how selective can one get?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

(B2431) wrote in
:

[snip]

Eddie Slovik, George Lincol Rockwell, Tim McVeigh, Bennedict Arnold
etc were "good enough to make it to combat." Gee, how selective can
one get?

Yup and ole Timmy McV got hisself a Bronze Star just like somebody
else we could mention. Only difference is, that young Tim appears
to actually have merited his award and got to keep it.

IBM

__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com
The Worlds Uncensored News Source

(ArtKramr) wrote in
:

[snip]

You weren't even good enough to make it to combat at all. How
pathetic you are little boy hiding under a desk while a war raged and
men fought.

Course it could be no one was foolish enough to try anything on
his watch or mine. Its not like we could go around randomly
attacking every Tom, Dhijk, and Abdool now is it?

IBM

__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com
The Worlds Uncensored News Source

ArtKramr wrote:

There is the tip of the spear. Then there is everything else. The very best
are
at the tip of the spear.

C-47s delivered paratroopers the night before D-Day. The only other aircraft
airborne were allied fighters. Sounds like "tip of the spear" to me.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: Ian MacLure
Date: 9/7/2004 9:58 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
hlink.net:

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...

A C-54 is not a combat aircraft. Seeing "action" implies that you
have done
harm to the enemy. You can't do harm to the enemy in an unarmed
airliner. Flying combat airccraft is one thing, Flying airliners is
something else.


When it comes to doing harm to the enemy, "unarmed airliners"
delivering paratroops isn't so different from bombers delivering
bombs.

As it happens, paratrooping is one thing my cousin did not do.
They did trust him with high value stuff including 3 and 4 star
officers and the CinC Pacific from time to time though.

IBM


Tough service, War is hell.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

(ArtKramr) wrote in message
....
Why did Bush join the National Guard instrae do the Army, Navy or Air Force?
why?


No mystery:

RUSSERT: Were you favor of the war in Vietnam?

BUSH: I supported my government. I did. And would have gone
had my unit been called up, by the way.

RUSSERT: But you didn't volunteer or enlist to go.

BUSH: No, I didn't. You're right.

Meet The Press
February 8th, 2004



"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out
with a shotgun in order to get a deferment.
Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I
chose to better myself by learning how to fly
airplanes."

George W. Bush, 1990
as quoted in The Houston Chronicle
May 8th, 1994.

--

FF

ubject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: Ian MacLure
Date: 9/8/2004 10:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

(ArtKramr) wrote in
:

[snip]

I'd say you are a living example of someone not qualified to be
anything military.

He's certainly overqualified to be a bombardier judging by
your sorry ass.

IBM


And you wannabee? were you ever anything?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:25:13 +0000, ArtKramr wrote:

[snip]

And you wannabee? were you ever anything?

Yup, had my 15 minutes of fame long ago.

IBM

__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com
The Worlds Uncensored News Source

Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "ian maclure"
Date: 9/9/2004 11:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 13:25:13 +0000, ArtKramr wrote:

[snip]

And you wannabee? were you ever anything?

Yup, had my 15 minutes of fame long ago.

IBM



Never knew you were in a war that lasted that long.



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer