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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
I searched for a comparison on the rec.aviation.soaring site for a
comparison between ClearNav and an LX 9000, but didn't find anything directly comparing the two (I apologize if I somehow missed it). I'm finalizing plans for a panel for a new glider and would be grateful for any advice from users of these two flight computers (LX 8000 users too) who have thoughts to share about the choice between them. Mitch Polinsky (for private replies) (650) 224-5851 cell (if you prefer to call; I'm on west coast time) |
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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
On Aug 28, 11:39*pm, Mitch Polinsky wrote:
I searched for a comparison on the rec.aviation.soaring site for a comparison between ClearNav and an LX 9000, but didn't find anything directly comparing the two (I apologize if I somehow missed it). *I'm finalizing plans for a panel for a new glider and would be grateful for any advice from users of these two flight computers (LX 8000 users too) who have thoughts to share about the choice between them. Mitch Polinsky (for private replies) (650) 224-5851 cell (if you prefer to call; I'm on west coast time) Mitch, I haven't used either system but have a similar decision to make. I choose the LX 9000 for a new glider because it has an included fully developed proven variometer and because the options to integrate Flarm (later PowerFlarm I understand), an artificial horizon, and a compass into the system saves a lot of the panel space that is lost by having the large display. Also I like SeeYou Mobile of which the 9000 uses an adapted version. A friend who is planning to add to his current glider chooses the ClearNav display because he prefers the display and software and because he already has an artificial horizon, a Flarm, a compass and a Cambridge 302 to drive the ClearNav display and he can mount the display on an arm like a big PDA. He hopes that the ClearNav vario will be a success and that he will be able to replace the 302 with it when it is proven. John Galloway |
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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
I am also very interested in hearing actual experience with either of
these systems. Another one that seems like a pretty interesting option is the new LX Navigation's MiniMapPro. On Aug 28, 3:39*pm, Mitch Polinsky wrote: I searched for a comparison on the rec.aviation.soaring site for a comparison between ClearNav and an LX 9000, but didn't find anything directly comparing the two (I apologize if I somehow missed it). *I'm finalizing plans for a panel for a new glider and would be grateful for any advice from users of these two flight computers (LX 8000 users too) who have thoughts to share about the choice between them. Mitch Polinsky (for private replies) (650) 224-5851 cell (if you prefer to call; I'm on west coast time) |
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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
It is interesting to note, and visible in the LX Navigation brochure, that the software adopted for MiniMap is.. LK 8000 . It does look like an LX 8000, in fact. But it is not! Another one that seems like a pretty interesting option is the new LX Navigation's MiniMapPro. |
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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
On 9/2/2011 4:14 PM, PCool wrote:
It is interesting to note, and visible in the LX Navigation brochure, that the software adopted for MiniMap is.. LK 8000 . It does look like an LX 8000, in fact. But it is not! Another one that seems like a pretty interesting option is the new LX Navigation's MiniMapPro. According to the LX website... Running programs: SeeYou Mobile (PNA version), Winpilot (PNA version), Strepla, Pocket FMS Free ware programs: LK8000, XCsoar So, lots of choices for the unit. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl - "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation Mar/2004" Much of what you need to know tinyurl.com/yfs7tnz |
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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
That's the old MiniMap, Eric. The MiniMap Pro is a different thing
http://www.lxnavigation.si/avionics/ in fact its box is very very similar to the LX8000 box, having knobs and buttons. Of course being based on CE it can run anything, like the MiniMap. However just look at their pictures.. p "Eric Greenwell" ha scritto nel messaggio ... On 9/2/2011 4:14 PM, PCool wrote: According to the LX website... Running programs: SeeYou Mobile (PNA version), Winpilot (PNA version), Strepla, Pocket FMS Free ware programs: LK8000, XCsoar So, lots of choices for the unit. |
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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
On 9/2/2011 4:14 PM, PCool wrote:
It is interesting to note, and visible in the LX Navigation brochure, that the software adopted for MiniMap is.. LK 8000 . It does look like an LX 8000, in fact. But it is not! Another one that seems like a pretty interesting option is the new LX Navigation's MiniMapPro. An interesting variation, but it still sounds like they do not intend to limit it to one software solution. From their PDF brochu "Suggested navigation SW is LX version of LK 8000 (derivate of XCsoar)" "SeeYou Mobile can be also used as a navigation SW solution." -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) |
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At 03:36 04 September 2011, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 9/2/2011 4:14 PM, PCool wrote: It is interesting to note, and visible in the LX Navigation brochure, that the software adopted for MiniMap is.. LK 8000 . It does look like an LX 8000, in fact. But it is not! Another one that seems like a pretty interesting option is the new LX Navigation's MiniMapPro. An interesting variation, but it still sounds like they do not intend to limit it to one software solution. From their PDF brochu "Suggested navigation SW is LX version of LK 8000 (derivate of XCsoar)" "SeeYou Mobile can be also used as a navigation SW solution." -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) I am running an LX8000 with stick controller, flarm, voice and the AH module, with the LX Navigation (not LX Nav) vario. I have just installed an LX Mini Map as an additional screen running off the LX8000 output. There are a couple of pictures of my panel on http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/variometers.htm I am running the latest beta version of LK8000 (LPCool's work) so it is an interesting comparison to the LX8000. The whole LX8000 system is superb, and the screen is very bright and clear. I just wish I had room for the LX9000. The LX Mini Map display is far better than any PDA or PNA I have used or seen, but as a touch screen it is not as bright as the LX8000. However, it is very daylight useable and LK8000 runs well on it. What I particularly like about the LX8000 is the ability to edit the existing screens and program up new screens to do virtually anything you want. LK8000 has some scope for tailoring the data and the display, but the LX8000 is very good indeed for this. The airspace warnings on the LX8000 are excellent, at the moment not at this level on the LK8000 but as a new user I have noted how much development continues to take place on the LK8000 system and I expect this to improve further. Mike |
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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
I run an LX8000 with all the bolt on bits including the AHRS for cloud
flying. I have also flown a fair bit with the Clearnav. I must preface this posting by acknowledging you will always prefer the instrument you are most experienced with. For me the LX is definitely the better product. It seems to be a more mature product in terms of funtionality, useability and asthetics. The screen readability in the sun is also superiour. More importantly, it is almost completely free from all those little bugs that you only trip over once in a while. For example, the Clearnav has a habit of over lapping boxes on the screen so you cant read the data (perhaps there is a way to fix this but I couldnt find it quickly and easily). The LX is also excellent for competition work and the support from the factory is good. Obviously, the LX is not a cheap solution but I have never regretted spending the extra money - it is a truely excellent product. Hope that helps. Ben At 12:13 04 September 2011, Michael Clarke wrote: At 03:36 04 September 2011, Eric Greenwell wrote: On 9/2/2011 4:14 PM, PCool wrote: It is interesting to note, and visible in the LX Navigation brochure, that the software adopted for MiniMap is.. LK 8000 . It does look like an LX 8000, in fact. But it is not! Another one that seems like a pretty interesting option is the new LX Navigation's MiniMapPro. An interesting variation, but it still sounds like they do not intend to limit it to one software solution. From their PDF brochu "Suggested navigation SW is LX version of LK 8000 (derivate of XCsoar)" "SeeYou Mobile can be also used as a navigation SW solution." -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) I am running an LX8000 with stick controller, flarm, voice and the AH module, with the LX Navigation (not LX Nav) vario. I have just installed an LX Mini Map as an additional screen running off the LX8000 output. There are a couple of pictures of my panel on http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/variometers.htm I am running the latest beta version of LK8000 (LPCool's work) so it is an interesting comparison to the LX8000. The whole LX8000 system is superb, and the screen is very bright and clear. I just wish I had room for the LX9000. The LX Mini Map display is far better than any PDA or PNA I have used or seen, but as a touch screen it is not as bright as the LX8000. However, it is very daylight useable and LK8000 runs well on it. What I particularly like about the LX8000 is the ability to edit the existing screens and program up new screens to do virtually anything you want. LK8000 has some scope for tailoring the data and the display, but the LX8000 is very good indeed for this. The airspace warnings on the LX8000 are excellent, at the moment not at this level on the LK8000 but as a new user I have noted how much development continues to take place on the LK8000 system and I expect this to improve further. Mike |
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ClearNav vs. LX 9000
Hello Mike
"Michael Clarke" ha scritto nel messaggio news:4e636bc8$0$26623 http://www.lxavionics.co.uk/variometers.htm what a beautiful cockpit you have!! You do have LCD aboard, in those pics!! I too have an LX8000 on the club DuoDiscus and I like the Airspace system. I am still working on the airspace functionalities on LK, in fact. One of the big misteries for us not having ever seen a MiniMap in direct sunlight is to discover its visibility. Since you do have these units Mike, would you try and make some pics of them in a bright sunny day? I know it's hard to get one now (sunny days I mean) but in my life I could only see one MiniMap last year in an hangar during the winter. 1000 cd seems a lot to me, but of course also the LCD coating makes the difference under sunlight. thanks best! Paolo |
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