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Good candidate for a Blanton concersion ?
Barnyard BOb -- wrote: A friend of mine down in Homer has one and he likes it just fine. He used to post here and bought it partly based on advice from Highflier, who also seems to like them. My friend explained to me his theory on why people have had trouble with the engine, which seems to make some sense, but I don't understand all the issues involved well enough to be comfortable explaining it here. Del Rawlins- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I've heard enough of the "theories" and seen enough evidence that I know that I don't need to own a C-175 unless it has an O-360 engine. The C-175 that blew the piston was being piloted by the A&P that is intimately familiar with this plane and how to treat the geared engine. Ditto for his dad and another long time C-175 A&P that helps with repairs, annuals and overhauls. This plane has been "in the family" for many years, but **** still happens with regularity. The damn thing is what it is. g TBO by the book, when it can be made, is too short for me. Barnyard BOb -- -- Richard Lamb http://www.flash.net/~lamb01/ |
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On 17 Sep 2003 09:08 PM, Richard Lamb posted the following:
Good candidate for a Blanton concersion ? Every time I start to consider one of those, I keep coming back to the weight. *If* I can afford it, and *if* the companies concerned can get into production, I would like either a Deltahawk V-4 diesel or that ATP turbine that has gotten some press in the last year. Deltahawk seems to have their act together but I'm skeptical of the turbine folks. I inquired via email as to their product status a few weeks ago and never received a reply. Mazda and Subaru are remote possibilities. The more I learn about the lyconts the less I want to use one on my project. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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FWIW -- A fellow RV-3 owner here at 3GV also flies his dad's C-175. On the way to Osh, it had a piston fail with less than 800 hours since major, so he never made Osh. So.... this particular engine continues to build a reputation only somewhat better than the average auto engine in a plane. B-D Barnyard BOb -- Hmmmm, cept that I've never heard of an auto conversion engine eating a piston. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, I've just not heard of it. Corky Scott +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Why would you hear of it? Or more importantly .... HOW would you hear of it, unless personally involved or it happened in your personal little inner circle? If you can infer that auto engines are in some way superior by what you have or have not heard on the internet today, good luck. Barnyard BOb -- |
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Corky Scott Snicker... You beat me to it! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Enjoy. Barnyard BOb -- |
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I've heard enough of the "theories" and seen enough evidence that I know that I don't need to own a C-175 unless it has an O-360 engine. The C-175 that blew the piston was being piloted by the A&P that is intimately familiar with this plane and how to treat the geared engine. Ditto for his dad and another long time C-175 A&P that helps with repairs, annuals and overhauls. This plane has been "in the family" for many years, but **** still happens with regularity. The damn thing is what it is. g TBO by the book, when it can be made, is too short for me. Barnyard BOb -- On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 05:08:20 GMT, Richard Lamb wrote: Good candidate for a Blanton concersion ? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Don't you mean.... COERCION? B-D Barnyard BOb -- 51 years of flight |
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The more I learn about the lyconts the less I want to use one on my project. Del Rawlins- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You're ready for a better teacher. Her name is ... EXPERIENCE. I hope she doesn't kill you. Barnyard BOb -- 51 years of flight. |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 06:24:46 -0500, Barnyard BOb --
wrote: Why would you hear of it? Or more importantly .... HOW would you hear of it, unless personally involved or it happened in your personal little inner circle? If you can infer that auto engines are in some way superior by what you have or have not heard on the internet today, good luck. Barnyard BOb -- Because for 15 years I've been actively seeking news of auto engine failures. Since I'm building up a Ford V-6 for use in my Christavia, I thought it might be a good idea to understand where the failures have occured. In regards auto engine conversion failures in general, there have been some, of course. Most of the time the failure has been something other than the shortblock. No question, a failure is a failure, but the conversation was about a blown piston, which is part of the shortblock. Still doesn't mean anything, people don't contact me when their engine fails so I miss most of the news. But Bruce is ruthless in printing news of engine failures, feeling that we should understand the failure modes rather than stick our heads in the sand. Can't recall any article on a blown piston with the Ford. Perhaps he can comment. Corky Scott |
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In regards auto engine conversion failures in general, there have been some, of course. Most of the time the failure has been something other than the shortblock. No question, a failure is a failure, but the conversation was about a blown piston, which is part of the shortblock. Still doesn't mean anything, people don't contact me when their engine fails so I miss most of the news. AFAIK, this C-175 piston failure is an anomaly. Nothing more, nothing less. Read more into it if you will. But Bruce is ruthless in printing news of engine failures, feeling that we should understand the failure modes rather than stick our heads in the sand. Can't recall any article on a blown piston with the Ford. Perhaps he can comment. Corky Scott No one is accusing anyone of having their head in the sand, but given the millions of hours Lycoming and Continental have been flown and tracked over the years, any backyard data base by a couple of conversion enthusiasts is insignificant and quite suspect in the scheme of things. The FAA and the AD system far exceeds anything you or Bruce can begin to track regarding auto conversion world faux pas. Further... The Ford engine is but one conversion and not a popular one. Whatever its record is, or can be... it ain't good enough for the majority of folks interested in converting auto engines today. As far as I'm concerned, you Ford guys are riding a dead horse and the Chevy boyz fall out of the sky with alarming alacrity. Feel all warm and fuzzy with your minuscule knowledge/data base, if you must. Your Ford defense is a hoot.... and moot. Barnyard BOb -- 51 years of flight. |
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You're ready for a better teacher. Her name is ... EXPERIENCE. I hope she doesn't kill you. Barnyard BOb -- 51 years of flight. Hey Barnyard, Up until now it was only 50 years of flight. Happy birthday! Dave "only 37 years of flight" Tate |
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On 18 Sep 2003 03:58 AM, Barnyard BOb -- posted the following:
The more I learn about the lyconts the less I want to use one on my project. Del Rawlins- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You're ready for a better teacher. Her name is ... EXPERIENCE. I hope she doesn't kill you. The experience of others seems to suggest that no matter what engine I choose, so long as I keep it supplied with fuel I will likely be alright. ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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