What is Happening with T-34C's?

I understand that the T-34C is now phased out of Naval service. I have
also heard rumors that the Navy, in their infinite wisdom, is going to
cut them all up, rather than sell them to willing civilian buyers.

Anybody out there know the truth?

At some point, the US stopped selling surplus aircraft to civilians. Most
recent warbirds that ended up in private hands were the result of a civilian
trading the government for the aircraft. For instance, if the USAF wanted a
C-45 for the Air Force Muesum, and you had a well preserved example, they
might trade you a surplus aircraft for it.

So, in a roundabout way, some of the aircraft may end up in civilian hands,
but probably not many. Presumably, the rest will go to foreign governments
or will be scrapped.

KB

"ORVAL FAIRAIRN" wrote in message
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I understand that the T-34C is now phased out of Naval service. I have
also heard rumors that the Navy, in their infinite wisdom, is going to
cut them all up, rather than sell them to willing civilian buyers.

Anybody out there know the truth?

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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So, in a roundabout way, some of the aircraft may end up in civilian
hands,
but probably not many. Presumably, the rest will go to foreign
governments
or will be scrapped.

KB

I know one T-34C that ended up in the hands of the base flight club. Not
sure if that is considered "civilain" since it was a military base but
civilains were in the flight club and flew it, myself included. This was
back in the early 1990s so not sure if the policy was different at that
time.

JD

In article wZwQe.137073$E95.60418@fed1read01,
"Joe Delphi" wrote:

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
...

So, in a roundabout way, some of the aircraft may end up in civilian
hands,
but probably not many. Presumably, the rest will go to foreign
governments
or will be scrapped.

KB

I know one T-34C that ended up in the hands of the base flight club. Not
sure if that is considered "civilain" since it was a military base but
civilains were in the flight club and flew it, myself included. This was
back in the early 1990s so not sure if the policy was different at that
time.

JD

Which flying club was that? NUW had B's for a while.

Pugs

What is their reason for scrapping them?



"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
...
At some point, the US stopped selling surplus aircraft to civilians. Most
recent warbirds that ended up in private hands were the result of a
civilian
trading the government for the aircraft. For instance, if the USAF wanted
a
C-45 for the Air Force Muesum, and you had a well preserved example, they
might trade you a surplus aircraft for it.

So, in a roundabout way, some of the aircraft may end up in civilian
hands,
but probably not many. Presumably, the rest will go to foreign
governments
or will be scrapped.

KB

"ORVAL FAIRAIRN" wrote in message
news
I understand that the T-34C is now phased out of Naval service. I have
also heard rumors that the Navy, in their infinite wisdom, is going to
cut them all up, rather than sell them to willing civilian buyers.

Anybody out there know the truth?

In article . net,
"billw4" wrote:

What is their reason for scrapping them?



"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
...
At some point, the US stopped selling surplus aircraft to civilians. Most
recent warbirds that ended up in private hands were the result of a
civilian
trading the government for the aircraft. For instance, if the USAF wanted
a
C-45 for the Air Force Muesum, and you had a well preserved example, they
might trade you a surplus aircraft for it.

So, in a roundabout way, some of the aircraft may end up in civilian
hands,
but probably not many. Presumably, the rest will go to foreign
governments
or will be scrapped.

KB

"ORVAL FAIRAIRN" wrote in message
news
I understand that the T-34C is now phased out of Naval service. I have
also heard rumors that the Navy, in their infinite wisdom, is going to
cut them all up, rather than sell them to willing civilian buyers.

Anybody out there know the truth?



Replaced by the T-6A

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/...t/air-t6a.html

If you're asking why (or if) they are actually being broken up don't
know.
Pugs

ORVAL FAIRAIRN wrote:
I understand that the T-34C is now phased out of Naval service. I have
also heard rumors that the Navy, in their infinite wisdom, is going to
cut them all up, rather than sell them to willing civilian buyers.

Anybody out there know the truth?

I'm not sure buying an ex training command aircraft would be such a
great deal. Although the maintenance is great and keeps them going
in government service, they lead a hard life. Think of it like
getting a car at a police auction.

Jim Carriere wrote:
snip

I'm not sure buying an ex training command aircraft would be such a
great deal. Although the maintenance is great and keeps them going
in government service, they lead a hard life. Think of it like
getting a car at a police auction.

I gotta agree...aircraft used to train sprog crews have a hard
life...it's nothing that great maintenance can change either, the
basic airframe is often subjected to much greater stresses than
they are with more experienced handling...in my somewhat
experienced opinion at least...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:11:57 GMT, Gord Beaman
wrote:

Jim Carriere wrote:
snip

I'm not sure buying an ex training command aircraft would be such a
great deal. Although the maintenance is great and keeps them going
in government service, they lead a hard life. Think of it like
getting a car at a police auction.

I gotta agree...aircraft used to train sprog crews have a hard
life...it's nothing that great maintenance can change either, the
basic airframe is often subjected to much greater stresses than
they are with more experienced handling...in my somewhat
experienced opinion at least...

A "B" would not be too much of a machine to operate for most folks,
but the "C" (with that fuel-swilling turboprop and all the t-prop
maintenance needs) would be a rich man's toy. This is assuming no
serious airframe issues! :-)

It would be fun, but for that kind of money you could probably run a
T-28 and have more fun. And get lot's more "style points." ;-)

Bill Kambic

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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:11:57 GMT, Gord Beaman
wrote:

Jim Carriere wrote:
snip

I'm not sure buying an ex training command aircraft would be such a
great deal. Although the maintenance is great and keeps them going
in government service, they lead a hard life. Think of it like
getting a car at a police auction.

I gotta agree...aircraft used to train sprog crews have a hard
life...it's nothing that great maintenance can change either, the
basic airframe is often subjected to much greater stresses than
they are with more experienced handling...in my somewhat
experienced opinion at least...

A "B" would not be too much of a machine to operate for most folks,
but the "C" (with that fuel-swilling turboprop and all the t-prop
maintenance needs) would be a rich man's toy. This is assuming no
serious airframe issues! :-)

It would be fun, but for that kind of money you could probably run a
T-28 and have more fun. And get lot's more "style points." ;-)

Bill Kambic

Years ago a T-34C showed up at my local airport, by coincidence during a
Bonanza fly-in.

I told the guys they may have had the ugliest Bonanza there, but at least it
was the fastest!

On a related topic, I read "somewhere" that Beech was concerned about
potential future liability issues, and that the contract stipulated that the
C's would never be allowed into civilian hands. I have no evidence other
than a conspicuously faulty memory, so this may be total BS. However, the
piston versions in civilian hands have had a number of fatal accidents
involving structural faulure, so I can see Beech's point.

Bob McKellar