Excellent TV Piece on GA

but what
he's saying is both accurate

No, it's not. And, more to the point: He has no way of knowing.

Well, I'll give the latter point.

However, simming is an excellent, nearly cost-free way of giving
yourself a cheap aviation "fix". Need proof? Stop by the inn on
Movie Night to see the number of real, live pilots waiting patiently
for their turn on "The Kiwi" -- our full-sized flight simulator.

Especially now that we've got F-16 and F/A-18 aircraft modeled in the
sim! (Kinda hard to get any real stick time in a Viper nowadays, ya
know...)

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

news.verizon.net writes:

For someone who claims to teach English you have a amazing ability to not
comprehend it. He never said his son sacrificed a semester of college.

But he did. The money spent on getting a pilot's license is money that can
never be used for any other purpose, including a semester of college.

If you spend money on flying, there are other things that you cannot spend
money on. The total amount of money cannot change, so you cannot spend it on
one thing without refraining from spending it on another.

Many people may prefer the car or the semester of college, and so they do not
fly.

Or you can sit in a chair and make airplane noises. That's even less
money, and is just as close to flying.

It is far less realistic than computerized simulation.

No, it isn't.

Can you *really* be so stupid?

Never mind, "Bertie". We've got megabytes of evidence, in your own
words...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ivan, it *can* be done without breaking the bank. My son, my wife,
and I are living proof.

What other things have you sacrificed to pay for it? You've just indicated
that your son sacrifced a semester of college education or a car in order to
get his license. It's not free.

Nope, it's not.

But -- as opposed to most of our non-pilot friends -- we don't drive
around in brand new luxury cars, we don't live in a 4000 sq ft
"McMansion", we don't have any credit card debt, and we don't go on
cruises or trips abroad. We have chosen instead to make GA the
centerpoint of our life, both in business and leisure.

Unless you have unlimited money, you have to prioritize your
spending. We have chosen to make flying our top priority, after food
and shelter. If you want to fly bad enough, you do things like that.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote in news:fadf4fb1-3dfa-4d78-b0f1-
:

Or you can sit in a chair and make airplane noises. That's even less
money, and is just as close to flying.

It is far less realistic than computerized simulation.

No, it isn't.

Can you *really* be so stupid?



Nope,

Never mind, "Bertie". We've got megabytes of evidence, in your own
words...
--


You;re an idiot Jay, Time to face it.
Simualtion contributes far more negative notions to a prospective pilot
than positive unless it's used as a procedural tool.


The fact that you can't see that combined with the drivel you post does
nothing but support that notion.





Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

news.verizon.net writes:

For someone who claims to teach English you have a amazing ability to
not comprehend it. He never said his son sacrificed a semester of
college.

But he did. The money spent on getting a pilot's license is money
that can never be used for any other purpose, including a semester of
college.

If you spend money on flying, there are other things that you cannot
spend money on.



Wow, you should go on mastermind, special subject, the bleedin obvious.


Bertie

Jay Honeck wrote in news:1fba6cb1-8477-4704-b71c-
:

but what
he's saying is both accurate

No, it's not. And, more to the point: He has no way of knowing.

Well, I'll give the latter point.

However, simming is an excellent, nearly cost-free way of giving
yourself a cheap aviation "fix".


No it isn't. it's jerking off



Bertie

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Jay Honeck writes:

Ivan, it *can* be done without breaking the bank. My son, my wife,
and I are living proof.

What other things have you sacrificed to pay for it?

What have you sacrificed to live your life in a vacuum?

Jay Honeck writes:

But -- as opposed to most of our non-pilot friends -- we don't drive
around in brand new luxury cars, we don't live in a 4000 sq ft
"McMansion", we don't have any credit card debt, and we don't go on
cruises or trips abroad. We have chosen instead to make GA the
centerpoint of our life, both in business and leisure.

So you've sacrificed a great deal in order to be able to fly. I suspect that
there aren't many people around who are prepared to make such extensive
sacrifices just for the opportunity to spend a few hours in a small aircraft
once in a while.

Unless you have unlimited money, you have to prioritize your
spending. We have chosen to make flying our top priority, after food
and shelter. If you want to fly bad enough, you do things like that.

Yes, but the problem with GA today is precisely that: you have to want to fly
really, really bad in order to make the sacrifices necessary to do it. There
just aren't that many people who want to fly that badly, and so GA withers.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Jay Honeck writes:

But -- as opposed to most of our non-pilot friends -- we don't drive
around in brand new luxury cars, we don't live in a 4000 sq ft
"McMansion", we don't have any credit card debt, and we don't go on
cruises or trips abroad. We have chosen instead to make GA the
centerpoint of our life, both in business and leisure.

So you've sacrificed a great deal in order to be able to fly.

Wheras you have nothing to sacifice.




Bertie