Russian Tu-160 Blackjack bombers land in Venezuela - Peter the Greatnuclear-powered heavy missile cruiser and battle group on the way

On Sep 11, 7:24*am, Bill Kambic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Rob Arndt

wrote:
This is only news if the West chooses to make it *news; otherwise, it
is really nothing extraordinary, nor will it bring back the Cold
War...

The Cold War is over and is as much a part of history as the American
Civil War.

What you see now is a resurgence of Russian Nationalism and a new
round of the The Great Game. *If more prople studied history they
would know what they are looking at.

Yes, think of grandpop back in the 1890s, pulling his old uniform out
of the trunk, brushing it off and wearing it into town on the Fourth
of July.

"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message
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On Sep 11, 7:24 am, Bill Kambic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Rob Arndt

wrote:
This is only news if the West chooses to make it news; otherwise, it
is really nothing extraordinary, nor will it bring back the Cold
War...

The Cold War is over and is as much a part of history as the American
Civil War.

What you see now is a resurgence of Russian Nationalism and a new
round of the The Great Game. If more prople studied history they
would know what they are looking at.

Yes, think of grandpop back in the 1890s, pulling his old uniform out
of the trunk, brushing it off and wearing it into town on the Fourth
of July.

-----------------------

Or, more to the point, the men of Quantrill's Raiders dressing up in their
old uniforms to have a reunion on the date of their raid on Lawrence Kansas.

During the American Civil War they were treated very like al Quaida men are
being treated today.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Sep 11, 10:36*am, "William Black"
wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message

...
On Sep 11, 7:24 am, Bill Kambic wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Rob Arndt

wrote:
This is only news if the West chooses to make it news; otherwise, it
is really nothing extraordinary, nor will it bring back the Cold
War...

The Cold War is over and is as much a part of history as the American
Civil War.

What you see now is a resurgence of Russian Nationalism and a new
round of the The Great Game. If more prople studied history they
would know what they are looking at.

Yes, think of grandpop back in the 1890s, pulling his old uniform out
of the trunk, brushing it off and wearing it into town on the Fourth
of July.

-----------------------

Or, *more to the point, *the men of Quantrill's Raiders dressing up in their
old uniforms to have a reunion on the date of their raid on Lawrence Kansas.

During the American Civil War they were treated very like al Quaida men are
being treated today.

--
William Black


Deservedly so. Actually, al Qaeda guys at least have the
possibility of a trial.

On Sep 11, 10:47*am, " wrote:
On Sep 11, 10:36*am, "William Black"
wrote:

"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message

....
On Sep 11, 7:24 am, Bill Kambic wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Rob Arndt

wrote:
This is only news if the West chooses to make it news; otherwise, it
is really nothing extraordinary, nor will it bring back the Cold
War...

The Cold War is over and is as much a part of history as the American
Civil War.

What you see now is a resurgence of Russian Nationalism and a new
round of the The Great Game. If more prople studied history they
would know what they are looking at.

Yes, think of grandpop back in the 1890s, pulling his old uniform out
of the trunk, brushing it off and wearing it into town on the Fourth
of July.

-----------------------

Or, *more to the point, *the men of Quantrill's Raiders dressing up in their
old uniforms to have a reunion on the date of their raid on Lawrence Kansas.

During the American Civil War they were treated very like al Quaida men are
being treated today.

--
William Black

* * * *Deservedly so. Actually, al Qaeda guys at least have the
possibility of a trial.

I will say that my grandparents and great grandparents lived for a
while in Jamesport Missouri. I think they would not share your opinion
of the fake colonel. He claimed he got a colonelcy in Richmond but no
one else knew about it.

"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message
...
On Sep 11, 10:47 am, " wrote:
On Sep 11, 10:36 am, "William Black"
wrote:

"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message

...
On Sep 11, 7:24 am, Bill Kambic wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Rob Arndt

wrote:
This is only news if the West chooses to make it news; otherwise, it
is really nothing extraordinary, nor will it bring back the Cold
War...

The Cold War is over and is as much a part of history as the American
Civil War.

What you see now is a resurgence of Russian Nationalism and a new
round of the The Great Game. If more prople studied history they
would know what they are looking at.

Yes, think of grandpop back in the 1890s, pulling his old uniform out
of the trunk, brushing it off and wearing it into town on the Fourth
of July.

-----------------------

Or, more to the point, the men of Quantrill's Raiders dressing up in
their
old uniforms to have a reunion on the date of their raid on Lawrence
Kansas.

During the American Civil War they were treated very like al Quaida men
are
being treated today.

--
William Black

Deservedly so. Actually, al Qaeda guys at least have the
possibility of a trial.

I will say that my grandparents and great grandparents lived for a
while in Jamesport Missouri. I think they would not share your opinion
of the fake colonel. He claimed he got a colonelcy in Richmond but no
one else knew about it.

-------------------------

Quantrill and Anderson most certainly did have commissions.

The issue of Quantrill's colonel's commission is gone into in great detail
in a book called 'the Devil Knows How to Ride' and the conclusion seems to
be that:

1. He was certainly commissioned, he is noted in several letters by men
who had no reason to admire him as having used it to avoid 'conventional'
military service for his men.

2. He led a group of regimental size with a number of officers under him.

The title 'colonel' was probably as valid as any other officer of that rank
who commanded a 'locally raised unit'.

It is interesting to note that Anderson, another 'Missouri guerrilla' who
certainly had a valid commission, this one from Sterling Price, is
referred to as 'Major Anderson' in his orders, also from Sterling Price...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Or, *more to the point, *the men of Quantrill's Raiders dressing up in their
old uniforms to have a reunion on the date of their raid on Lawrence Kansas.

During the American Civil War they were treated very like al Quaida men are
being treated today.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

When KU comes to play The University of Missouri in football, there
are signs in town that say 'Burn Lawrence'. Only recently were the
Confederate flags banished from the football sidelines.

"frank" wrote in message
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Or, more to the point, the men of Quantrill's Raiders dressing up in their
old uniforms to have a reunion on the date of their raid on Lawrence
Kansas.

During the American Civil War they were treated very like al Quaida men
are
being treated today.


When KU comes to play The University of Missouri in football, there
are signs in town that say 'Burn Lawrence'. Only recently were the
Confederate flags banished from the football sidelines.

--------------------------------

The level of bitterness in that particular part of the American Civil War
was dreadful.

Interestingly very few of the people on either side were either
abolitionists or slave owners.

Of course some, like 'Doc Jennison', were just crooks out to line their
own nests, and some, like Anderson and his ghastly associate Archie
Clement, were probably psychopathic.

But the majority of the men involved on both side of that part of the
conflict seem to have settled down after the war, with a few obvious
exceptions like the members of the James Gang and the Younger Brothers...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Sep 11, 11:48*am, frank wrote:
Or, *more to the point, *the men of Quantrill's Raiders dressing up in their
old uniforms to have a reunion on the date of their raid on Lawrence Kansas.

During the American Civil War they were treated very like al Quaida men are
being treated today.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

When KU comes to play The University of Missouri in football, there
are signs in town that say 'Burn Lawrence'. Only recently were the
Confederate flags banished from the football sidelines.

That's because they are winning games, I was there when a 15-13 win
over KU was the equivalent of a Orange Bowl win.

On Sep 11, 12:23*pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"frank" wrote in message

...



Or, more to the point, the men of Quantrill's Raiders dressing up in their
old uniforms to have a reunion on the date of their raid on Lawrence
Kansas.

During the American Civil War they were treated very like al Quaida men
are
being treated today.

When KU comes to play The University of Missouri in football, there
are signs in town that say 'Burn Lawrence'. Only recently were the
Confederate flags banished from the football sidelines.

--------------------------------

The level of bitterness in that particular part of the American Civil War
was dreadful.

Interestingly very few of the people on either side were either
abolitionists or slave owners.

Of course some, *like 'Doc Jennison', *were just crooks out to line their
own nests, and some, *like Anderson and his ghastly associate Archie
Clement, *were probably psychopathic.

But the majority of the men involved on both side of that part of the
conflict seem to have settled down after the war, *with a few obvious
exceptions like the members of the James Gang and the Younger Brothers...

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

If you can get a copy of Inside War: The Guerrilla Conflict in
Missouri During the American Civil War by Michael Fellman it
describes some of the things that passed for war then and there. There
is a rumor/belief that Missouri determined the South not to fight on
in guerilla after Appomattox.

On Sep 10, 4:27*pm, AirRaid wrote:

Russians need to be kept in check without escalating things too far.
Ronald Reagan would not have tolerated this behavior from the Soviets
during the 80s, without an American response. * The people in charge
of George W. Bush need to show some balls and confront the Russians
anytime, anywhere. On land, at sea, in the air.

Seem to me that to large chunk of American population, being dumb, aka
"optimistic", is all it needs to be a president. No wonder we have 4
presidential terms marked by dimwitted chief executive and massive
corruption and fraud in the administration.