Cirrus BRS deployments - Alan Klapmeier's comments on NPR

Howdy!

In article ,
Ron Lee wrote:
(Michael Houghton) wrote:

Howdy!

In article ,
Ron Lee wrote:
Careful CJ, you are reacting to Durden's incorrect assessment of posts
that I made. Sounds like a Democrat

What is incorrect about Rick Durden's assessment of your posts? You harp
on how CAPS is a "crutch". Right up front, you said:

I know at least one person here is a fan of the CAPS. I wonder if it
is a last resort for pilot incompetence?

You immediately question the competence of the pilots. You insist that
the pilots need better training to avoid getting into situation where they
might be tempted (my word) to pull the handle instead of flying out of
trouble like a manly man (my words again). Rick calls you on it citing
historical reactions to the introduction of last-ditch safety equipment
whose use is the ultimate in giving-up without conceding death. You
call it a crutch.

MIchael, I said "I wonder". That is not a definitive statement. It
raises an issue that is worth discussing about what really led to the
deployment of the parachute. See how you are misreading my posts.
That is what is sad.

"incompetence" is a pretty strong word to use. By inserting it into the
discourse as early as you did, you suggest to a reasonable reader that
you think it might somehow apply. Being a bit eager to pull the chute
does not, by any stretch of the imagination, automatically rise to the
level of incompetence. You follow up by characterizing the mere presence
of the BRS as a crutch. Taken as a whole, your remarks convey a meaning
that you claim is a misreading.

You sound sad.

Actually I am quite happy and well adjusted.. Do some of you folks
always react this way with points of view that are different than your
own?

I react this way to people who make statements and implications and then
deny that they meant what we are inferring. I also don't react favorably
to logical fallacies when they get trotted out.

yours,
Michael


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(Michael Houghton) wrote
Bill Denton spoke of how it caused *police officers* problems, but not
the general driving public.

Police officers have pretty much the worst accident records of anyone.
Of course no small part of it is the fact that they have a legitimate
reason to drive agressively (chasing down murderers) whereas most
drivers don't. Still, if there is a problem, that's where it's going
to show up first.

It took insurance companies years to decide that ABS didn't warrant a
discount. It just looked so good on paper. This was a good early
indication.

Or are you just opposed to any safety advance?

Ah, that must be it. I must be anti-safety.

But it's supposed to be a safer aircraft than what we fly. It was
supposedly designed for safety. Now we think that maybe with
sufficient retraining it won't be especially dangerous.

...no more dangerous than any other light single...

Yes it is more dangerous than MOST other light singles. It has over
THREE TIMES the fatality rate of the new C-182's - and the C-182's are
basically an old, warmed-over design. The Cirrus is supposedly
designed for safety.

Michael

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...

Yep. IF we can agree that to have the chute as an option is a good thing.
THEN
we can start discussing when to pull it. And that will vary from pilot to

Yes, I agree with you. As long as the presence of a parachute does not
become an excuse not to maintain proficiency with skills that could allow
the airplane to be safely landed without the parachute.


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Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com

"Michael" wrote in message
om...

But it's supposed to be a safer aircraft than what we fly. It was
supposedly designed for safety. Now we think that maybe with
sufficient retraining it won't be especially dangerous.

Do you know why/how AOPA stated in today's Epilot newletter that the Cirrus
is as safe as the 172/182? The recent stats from Aviation Safety (BEFORE
the recent fatal accident this week) showed it clearly had a worse safety
record.

Is AOPA being less than objective here in order to suit some politically
correct agenda?

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Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com

Richard Kaplan wrote:

Is AOPA being less than objective here in order to suit some politically
correct agenda?

Perhaps the blurb for the newsletter was written before the recent accidents?

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...

Perhaps the blurb for the newsletter was written before the recent
accidents?


No, the article was ABOUT this week's fatal SC accident.


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Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com

"Richard Kaplan" wrote:

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...

Yep. IF we can agree that to have the chute as an option is a good thing.
THEN
we can start discussing when to pull it. And that will vary from pilot to

Yes, I agree with you. As long as the presence of a parachute does not
become an excuse not to maintain proficiency with skills that could allow
the airplane to be safely landed without the parachute.

Exactly

Ron Lee
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Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com

We're they quoting accidents or fatal accidents? That could make a difference.

Dave Reinhart


Richard Kaplan wrote:

"Michael" wrote in message
om...

But it's supposed to be a safer aircraft than what we fly. It was
supposedly designed for safety. Now we think that maybe with
sufficient retraining it won't be especially dangerous.

Do you know why/how AOPA stated in today's Epilot newletter that the Cirrus
is as safe as the 172/182? The recent stats from Aviation Safety (BEFORE
the recent fatal accident this week) showed it clearly had a worse safety
record.

Is AOPA being less than objective here in order to suit some politically
correct agenda?

--------------------
Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com