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  #91  
Old May 20th 07, 06:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On May 19, 3:22 pm, "Matt Barrow"
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"Luke Skywalker" wrote in message



I am not a refinery expert nor do I play one on TV...but what I do
know is that they are massivly increasing the acreage of these
facilities and the history is when they do that...the old facilities
keep right on going.

is it 70's technology? I dont know. The Nimitz and the Ronald Reagan
"Look" alot a like but the technology on The Nimitz when she was built
isnt the technology that they put on The Ronald Reagan.

Robert


  #92  
Old May 20th 07, 09:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"kontiki" wrote in message
...
Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

People who want to play word games worthy only of 10 year olds
tend not to be well versed on much of anything...


Sounds like Al Gore.


Sounds like Floyd with his "exploratory well" and equating that to "proven
reserves".

I guess he thinks all those seismologists (and the rest) should pack up and
go home.


  #93  
Old May 20th 07, 09:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Luke Skywalker" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 19, 3:22 pm, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:
"Luke Skywalker" wrote in message



I am not a refinery expert nor do I play one on TV...but what I do
know is that they are massivly increasing the acreage of these
facilities and the history is when they do that...the old facilities
keep right on going.


Well, when you find out what going onto that acreage, we can discuss. But
note, outside of new ruling by EPA, it's not likely to be direct capacity.
Possibly, storage, transport, and maybe even capacity. IAC, don't make wild
ass assumptions like the media or academics.


is it 70's technology? I dont know. The Nimitz and the Ronald Reagan
"Look" alot a like but the technology on The Nimitz when she was built
isnt the technology that they put on The Ronald Reagan.


Quite. You just answered my point. But as marvelous a machine as the USS
Reagan is, we're not going to be a one-carrier Navy.

Go back to the IBD article and re-read the part about capacity growing
DESPITE having lost so much in PHYSICAL ASSETS.

The issue that so many want to evade is that our refining infrastructure is
running near 100 percent of capacity. Our demand is out-stripping that
capacity.

Here's an analogy: You have a nice freeway, but a few years later it's
running bumper-to-bumper, 24/7. If you want to add a couple lanes, you have
to shut down the freeway and divert traffic.

Now, imagine what happens when the need to repair a stretch for fill in
potholes.

Now imagine there's a wreck and all the bozos (congress) are rubber-necking.

Imagine, too, that all of our cars are 1976 and older, but we did keep them
up pretty well. We tuned them up, and put new seat covers in and a new CD
player. Yet, we can't put it in the garage for a lengthy time to get a
complete overhaul.




  #94  
Old May 21st 07, 01:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On May 20, 2:22 pm, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:
"kontiki" wrote in message

...

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:


People who want to play word games worthy only of 10 year olds
tend not to be well versed on much of anything...


Sounds like Al Gore.


Sounds like Floyd with his "exploratory well" and equating that to "proven
reserves".

I guess he thinks all those seismologists (and the rest) should pack up and
go home.


I think Matt has hit on something. It is possible that Floyd is a tree
hugger dressed up as a pilot. Hey Floyd, since this is the
rec.aviation.owning do ya care to tell us the N number of your plane?

  #95  
Old May 21st 07, 03:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Matt Barrow" wrote:
"kontiki" wrote in message
...
Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

People who want to play word games worthy only of 10 year olds
tend not to be well versed on much of anything...


Sounds like Al Gore.


Sounds like Floyd with his "exploratory well" and equating that to "proven
reserves".

I guess he thinks all those seismologists (and the rest) should pack up and
go home.


So Matt... when are you going to cite a credible URL
which lists proven reserves in ANWR?

You've had a good bit of time to demonstrate that you
know something, and haven't.

That is because of course there are *no* proven reserves in
ANWR.

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
  #96  
Old May 21st 07, 08:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Floyd L. Davidson
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" wrote:
On May 20, 2:22 pm, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:
"kontiki" wrote in message

...

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:


People who want to play word games worthy only of 10 year olds
tend not to be well versed on much of anything...


Sounds like Al Gore.


Sounds like Floyd with his "exploratory well" and equating that to "proven
reserves".

I guess he thinks all those seismologists (and the rest) should pack up and
go home.


I think Matt has hit on something. It is possible that Floyd is a tree
hugger dressed up as a pilot. Hey Floyd, since this is the
rec.aviation.owning do ya care to tell us the N number of your plane?


What logical connection is there between owning an
airplane and understanding what proven reserves are?

If Matt owns an airplane, will that mean his lack of logic
is acceptable on any particular topic?

If you had a valid point, would you even know about it?

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
  #97  
Old May 21st 07, 11:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
kontiki
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Floyd L. Davidson wrote:


That is because of course there are *no* proven reserves in
ANWR.


If there was in internet in the 1400's you would be posting
that Columbus will absolutely fall off the edge of the earth
and die if he attempts to sail out that far.

You are posting here because you are getting bored with
playing with your own genatilia.
  #98  
Old May 21st 07, 01:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Floyd L. Davidson
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kontiki wrote:
Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

That is because of course there are *no* proven
reserves in
ANWR.


If there was in internet in the 1400's you would be posting
that Columbus will absolutely fall off the edge of the earth
and die if he attempts to sail out that far.

You are posting here because you are getting bored with
playing with your own genatilia.


Lets see now... we have a disagreement, and I post all
sorts of facts and figures, along with cites to credible
sources for that data. You make posts like the above.

I may know a good bit about the facts and figures for
ANWR, but you know a good bit about playing with
genatilia.

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
  #99  
Old May 21st 07, 02:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"kontiki" wrote in message
...
Floyd L. Davidson wrote:


That is because of course there are *no* proven reserves in
ANWR.


If there was in internet in the 1400's you would be posting
that Columbus will absolutely fall off the edge of the earth
and die if he attempts to sail out that far.


He's one of those who claim it's never been PROVEN that the Earth, in fact,
revolves around the Sun. The mindset, and the illogic, is all the same.

And, as I mentioned in a previous post, in 1900 the US had PROVEN reserves
of less than one billion barrels.


You are posting here because you are getting bored with
playing with your own genatilia.


He has to because no one else will.



  #100  
Old May 21st 07, 02:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 20, 2:22 pm, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:
"kontiki" wrote in message

...

Floyd L. Davidson wrote:


People who want to play word games worthy only of 10 year olds
tend not to be well versed on much of anything...


Sounds like Al Gore.


Sounds like Floyd with his "exploratory well" and equating that to
"proven
reserves".

I guess he thinks all those seismologists (and the rest) should pack up
and
go home.


I think Matt has hit on something. It is possible that Floyd is a tree
hugger dressed up as a pilot.


I think we can all name some tree huggers that are pilots.

If Floyd is who I think he is, he's something of a Usenet troll who likes to
play cynical expert on a lot of subjects. (See other post about proving that
the Earth revolves around the Sun). His ignorance and irrationality are text
book cases.

Hey Floyd, since this is the
rec.aviation.owning do ya care to tell us the N number of your plane?


There's a lot of people in here are not owners, but renters, potential
owners, and some that are no longer active, but they have the interest and
curiosity.

Floyd is, I believe, just an Usenet fruitcake.


 




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