Tricky examiners

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:01:39 -0800, "BT" wrote:

You get yourself too high.. and you will not make it.. you'll dive with too
much speed.. and float in ground effect off the other end of a very short
runway.. seen it happen.

How high was the airplane? I can come down pretty quickly without diving
and increasing airspeed just by slipping.

So he'd have to be in a position where he was too low to do a 360, and too
high to do a controlled slip.
--ron

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:17:32 GMT, JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:

While I was inside, the examiner reattached the tail tiedown.

That's completely rotten and unfair! That would never happen in real life
and pretty much serves no purpose during a checkride, except to un-nerve
the poor student who is already in a pretty frazzled state already.

I call foul!

--
Dallas

How high was the airplane? I can come down pretty quickly without diving
and increasing airspeed just by slipping.

So he'd have to be in a position where he was too low to do a 360, and too
high to do a controlled slip.
--ron

Yes "you" can "slip it in"... he did not even try to slip..

His head was definitely "up and locked" and he turned into a passenger as it
went through the far fence, no engine for a go around..
BT

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:13:42 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:

The instructor looked at the field and said "I
don't think you can make it".

Unreal... I had almost exactly the same experience word for word except my
examiner really didn't think we could make it. I posted an account in RAS
last month if you don't believe me.

We must have had the same DPE....

:- )

--
Dallas

Dallas wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:17:32 GMT, JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:

While I was inside, the examiner reattached the tail tiedown.

That's completely rotten and unfair! That would never happen in real life
and pretty much serves no purpose during a checkride, except to un-nerve
the poor student who is already in a pretty frazzled state already.

I call foul!

Years ago I was showing a buddy of mine a new pistol I had bought and
went to take a whiz.

When I came back, I picked up the gun from the table where he had left
it and dropped the hammer without first checking the chamber.

He had put in a blank while I was in the can.

After my screaming stopped, he just smiled and said, "I'll be you'll
never, ever pick up a gun again without checking it".

He was right.

The moral to both stories:

Never assume that some asshole hasn't "helped you out" while your
back was turned.

I've had people "help me out" by putting the tie downs back on after
a preflight while doing a quick sump dump before takeoff.


--
Jim Pennino

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"Dudley Henriques" wrote
I said, "you knew I could make it" He said
yeah, but if you ever have a planeload of
people and the engine stops, they will be
yelling and crying that "you're not going to
make it, we're all going to die". I wanted
to see what you'd do.

One local Test Officer has a reputation of asking PPL candidates to "keep
going, lets see if make it" during the simulated forced landing to a paddock
in the exam. Drop below 500 AGL and BAM ...... test over.

As the PIC you aren't allowed below 500' (unless taking off, landing,
training for a rating or crashing), and you have shown poor judgement in
allowing your "passenger" to goad you into low flying.

Tough but real worldish.



--
Regards,

David Varidel

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There are 10 types of people in this world - those who use binary, and those
who don't.

A couple tricks come to mind. The Arrow turn on the exterior lights
to dim the gear down lights. This did not catch me since i was warned
by a friend who had an Arrow. Another cute trick is for the examiner
to place a piece of safety wire under the engine compartment to see if
the pilot performing the pre-flight will find it.

My favorite trick happened during my multi-engine check ride. I
noticed another plane in the vicinity while performing clearing
turns. My attention was locked on it until it was clear. Imagine my
surprise when the right hand engine quit! The examiner had his hands
in his lap! I went thru the shut down and restart procedure and found
that he had turned the fuel off when I wasn't looking. He previously
had covered the throttle quadrant with a chart when pulling an engine.

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 00:19:39 -0600, Dallas
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:13:42 -0800, Jim Stewart wrote:

The instructor looked at the field and said "I
don't think you can make it".

Unreal... I had almost exactly the same experience word for word except my
examiner really didn't think we could make it. I posted an account in RAS
last month if you don't believe me.

We must have had the same DPE....

:- )

My examiner may be a distant relative as when i did my skills test
(PPL) my practace forced landing was on a bit of ground 500 feet
higher than the surrounding countryside.
The altimeter was set to sea level and the low countryside was very
close to that. as I decended to 1000 feet qnh I said to my examiner
that the altimeter was not a lot of use as the terrain was much
higher.
He was happy with that and i passed )

Ross wrote:

On my commerical checkride, right after completing the unusual attitudes
under the hood, I was given the engine out emergency immediately. I did
all the prep work and set up for an empty field below me. The examiner
asked what was wrong with the airport about 2 miles at my 4 o'clock
position. I made the airport.


A better one:

On a mock checkride, the instructor got me out from under the hood with
an airport in sight, just out of glide range, and another below and
slightly behind me. He failed the engine immediately.

I took the bait and tried to reach the obvious of the two!

Man, did I learn a lot from that!

"Dallas" wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:17:32 GMT, JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:

While I was inside, the examiner reattached the tail tiedown.

That's completely rotten and unfair! That would never happen in real life
and pretty much serves no purpose during a checkride, except to un-nerve
the poor student who is already in a pretty frazzled state already.

I call foul!

--
Dallas

I'll disagree with you. It shows how the student reacts when something
unexpected happens.

Does the student simply apply full power and try to move?

Does the student use the elevator/rudder to try to break free?

Does the student immediately shut down to diagnose the problem?