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Single engine CV trap
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:47:11 -0700, "John Weiss"
jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet wrote: "Larry Cauble" wrote... Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS) to land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever landed aboard with an engine out? Don't know of one off hand that has NOT! A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18... Also S-3A/B. Bingo was always preferred if available, however, the S-3 had a fairly decent single engine profile. I don't recall ever rigging the barricade for a single engine S-3. Regards, |
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Thanks, all. I woulda figured a higher pucker factor.
Just another day at the office! |
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Single engine CV trap
"Charlie Wolf" wrote...
Don't know of one off hand that has NOT! A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18... Also S-3A/B. Bingo was always preferred if available, however, the S-3 had a fairly decent single engine profile. I don't recall ever rigging the barricade for a single engine S-3. I didn't intend the list to be all inclusive; there are others. I never had the "pleasure" -- never had a J-65 or J-52 quit on me in 3500 hours of A-4 and A-6 flying! All 525 traps were with all installed engines running. |
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Single engine CV trap
The only twins that didn't do single engine landing to my knowledge were the
A-3 and RA-5s. I've seen an RA-5 land with the canopy blown and an A-3 take a barricade when it's hook presure system failed causing hook skip, but no single engine landings. Art Greer "Charlie Wolf" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:47:11 -0700, "John Weiss" jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet wrote: "Larry Cauble" wrote... Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS) to land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever landed aboard with an engine out? Don't know of one off hand that has NOT! A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18... Also S-3A/B. Bingo was always preferred if available, however, the S-3 had a fairly decent single engine profile. I don't recall ever rigging the barricade for a single engine S-3. Regards, |
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Single engine CV trap
Art Greer wrote:
The only twins that didn't do single engine landing to my knowledge were the A-3 and RA-5s. I've seen an RA-5 land with the canopy blown and an A-3 take a barricade when it's hook presure system failed causing hook skip, but no single engine landings. Art Greer I guess a go-aroound would be an adventure on an A-3 (even an S-3) with the engines so far apart. -- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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Single engine CV trap
"Dave Kearton" wrote
I guess a go-aroound would be an adventure on an A-3 (even an S-3) with the engines so far apart. Rudders are sized to the requirement... Even the A-6 needed a footfull of rudder on 1 engine. |
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Single engine CV trap
In early 60's I never saw an engine failure in VAH-5's A3D's although
single engine approaches and landings were practiced in the RAG with one engine pulled back to idle. In 1962, an A-3 doing a loft maneuver on the Lake George, FL, target had the port (I think) engine break away about 40deg nose up and follow the loft bomb trajectory presumably into the Lake. The scoring towers declined to score the engine splash. The A-3 returned to NAS Sanford, about 40 miles, and called in that they had lost an engine. The tower operator reportedly replied quite bored, "Cleared for straight-in runway 9, standard single engine approach." Only after being told in no uncertain terms that the port engine was missing did the tower alert the crash crews and VAH-5 maintenance. Given the A-3's narrow 'wheelbase' the maintenance chief sent 12-15 men out to the runway, after rollout they climbed on the wing to counterbalance the missing engine. I've seen a picture of the A-3 taxiing or being towed in to the line with the dozen or so men on the pylon-only wing, in one of the A-3 Skywarrior monographs. But from 1960-63 I don't remember any engine failures - an event which seems to have increased with age, as I read these postings. Joel McEachen VAH-5 Dave Kearton wrote: Art Greer wrote: The only twins that didn't do single engine landing to my knowledge were the A-3 and RA-5s. I've seen an RA-5 land with the canopy blown and an A-3 take a barricade when it's hook presure system failed causing hook skip, but no single engine landings. Art Greer I guess a go-aroound would be an adventure on an A-3 (even an S-3) with the engines so far apart. |
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Single engine CV trap
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 07:37:12 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
wrote: Art Greer wrote: The only twins that didn't do single engine landing to my knowledge were the A-3 and RA-5s. I've seen an RA-5 land with the canopy blown and an A-3 take a barricade when it's hook presure system failed causing hook skip, but no single engine landings. Art Greer I guess a go-aroound would be an adventure on an A-3 (even an S-3) with the engines so far apart. Actually, S-3 had fairly decent single engine characteristics. Regards, |
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