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Gliders in the Grand Canyon
george writes:
Not in here and not from any of the current posters and pilots.. The active posters here who matter also show at least a modicum of respect, since both civility and competence have a common root in intelligence. The others don't matter, and so their respect or lack thereof is unimportant. Like most newsgroups, this newsgroup is afflicted by a gang of regulars who depend on each other for validation and bully anyone they don't like or anyone who threatens their security (which essentially means anyone who doesn't submit to them, as they tend to be very insecure). These people are not very intelligent and whether they respect others or not makes not difference (although it is interesting to note that such people rarely respect anyone beyond themselves). They also are not very knowledgeable on the topics under discussion, and their strutting aggression in the newsgroup cannot hide this. Their posts consist mostly of highly predictable personal attacks, and are easy to identify and ignore. I look past the standard noise for information that will be useful to me. Some people occasionally provide it. The rest is removed by the noise filters. you spend time in here posting upon subjects that are beyond you and when corrected you start empty argument thus making a fool of yourself Not really. I post questions to which I'd like to have answers. Sometimes people give me useful answers; sometimes not. The static from the little boys may hide the useful information (if any) from the uninitiated but not from USENET veterans. |
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flynrider via AviationKB.com writes:
Oh really? That would be news to the folks that make the charts. I think not. The charts are marked in the standard way to indicate the vertical boundaries of the SFRA. All sectors start at the surface, although the ceilings vary. |
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: flynrider via AviationKB.com writes: Oh really? That would be news to the folks that make the charts. I think not. The charts are marked in the standard way to indicate the vertical boundaries of the SFRA. All sectors start at the surface, although the ceilings vary. Apparently you have never heard of shelving or floors. Take example, Las Vegas Departure or Las Vegas Approach. Technically Departure's floor there is 3500ft; at the ceiling of the pattern altitude around Tower's airspace. Departure is split, to where a sector's ceiling is 13000, while the rest of the next departure sector has a ceiling of FL190[1]. Approach is the same. Their the first approach sector will have their ceiling be at either 16000 or 12000[2], while their floor be at 8000. Next sector (final) has from 8000 until handoff to tower. All of that information is available on the Las Vegas Sectional, which you would have realized if you looked at it, since it's publically available. And to top that off, you can hear it in use on the KLAS LiveATC.net feed. BL. [1] altimeter won't matter, as pilots will know that below 29.92, FL190 won't be used for a cruise altitude. [2] Coming from the northwest, the crossing restrictions coming into the Vegas Valley on a published STAR is 16000; MVAs in area vary from 10500ft MSL to 14000ft MSL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGaO8byBkZmuMZ8L8RAq+nAKCsqPyNvrBphJQkpdjLad 22OYNqNgCgishZ rP+5bL3DtBfNvWV5gozllWE= =ZQDb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: Not really. I post questions to which I'd like to have answers. Sometimes people give me useful answers; sometimes not. The static from the little boys may hide the useful information (if any) from the uninitiated but not from USENET veterans. So enlighten us, Anthony.. exactly how long have you been posting on USENET to label yourself as a 'veteran'? I'd love to know this. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGaO+oyBkZmuMZ8L8RAgaJAJ9Y+o1KjE3Nmp5Gk9bDIa 6V08ztKgCgwNR/ 0pfk2uTWpDxvYPOtrgH7NVQ= =Yp47 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
So enlighten us, Anthony.. exactly how long have you been posting on USENET to label yourself as a 'veteran'? I'd love to know this. Google is your friend, although that will not show my earliest activity. |
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
Apparently you have never heard of shelving or floors. I have, but that's irrelevant here. The chart is clearly marked, e.g., 9999' MSL ========= SURFACE Surface means the ground. You can't go below an airspace that starts on the ground. All of that information is available on the Las Vegas Sectional, which you would have realized if you looked at it, since it's publically available. I'm looking at the Grand Canyon chart, which is also publically available, and is much more relevant to the Grand Canyon SFRA than any other chart. |
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: So enlighten us, Anthony.. exactly how long have you been posting on USENET to label yourself as a 'veteran'? I'd love to know this. Google is your friend, although that will not show my earliest activity. Typical response; I'm pretty sure it would be easier to provide an answer. Either way, I'm more than positive I've been on USENET longer than you. Also, it doesn't mean that you haven't contributed to the signal-to-noise ratio in this group, because in judging from your previous slathering of posts, you clearly have, and it's caused a lot of people here (who not only are more than respectable, but have gone beyond the call of duty to EARN that respect) to not respect you. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGaP+DyBkZmuMZ8L8RAn63AKDtk+0bzp/SRCbsx2Q9DlXtqTuvEQCgx6gR YanER2cet9bwBg4by1qJ1cs= =Drhw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Nice one!
K "ManhattanMan" wrote in message ... Gig 601XL Builder wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: If you want respect here ... I already have the respect of those who matter. Everyone that respects MX please raise your hand. ROFLMFAO [sitting on hands] |
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Gliders in the Grand Canyon
Another nice one!
K "Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ... Mxsmanic, I already have the respect of those who matter. So nobody matters here? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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