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Old June 21st 04, 06:51 PM
Peter Gottlieb
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"Doug" wrote in message
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while it was a joke it was a strong statement to those that want to commit
crimes in The Great State of Texas... they will deal with you!!.. instead
they goto California or NY where liberals will hug you for your murderous
and vilolent ways, Lord knows it couldn't be your fault....Public hangings
will go a long way! ;-)


Your misconceptions are astounding.

That being said, the death penalty doesn't seem to be a very effective
deterrent anyhow.


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Old June 21st 04, 06:55 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

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Some States did at one time. Roe-v-Wade invalidated all of those laws.


Then murder is NOT a legal definition made by the State.


YES IT IS. Countries are States.


I think he's confusing "States" with "states".



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Old June 21st 04, 07:00 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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YES IT IS. Countries are States.


So murder in the US is a federal crime?


It can be.

But you're confusing "States" (as in United...) with "states" (a
governmental jurisdiction").

Every heard the term "statism"?

It's outside the jurisdiction of
the States?





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Old June 21st 04, 07:07 PM
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Your misconceptions are astounding.

That being said, the death penalty doesn't seem to be a very effective
deterrent anyhow.


It's deterred everyone that's received it.


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Old June 21st 04, 07:18 PM
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Doug" wrote in message
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while it was a joke it was a strong statement to those that want to

commit
crimes in The Great State of Texas... they will deal with you!!..

instead
they goto California or NY where liberals will hug you for your

murderous
and vilolent ways, Lord knows it couldn't be your fault....Public

hangings
will go a long way! ;-)


Your misconceptions are astounding.

That being said, the death penalty doesn't seem to be a very effective
deterrent anyhow.


Really?

Getting shot by potential victims is a deterrent (according to prison
interviews), but then the DP is so inconsistently invoked...

Two factors in any punishment are "consistency" and "certainty". Both those
are missing for the DP.



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Old June 21st 04, 07:18 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Your misconceptions are astounding.

That being said, the death penalty doesn't seem to be a very effective
deterrent anyhow.


It's deterred everyone that's received it.

The death penalty means never having to say "You again??".



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Old June 21st 04, 07:34 PM
Peter Gottlieb
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Your misconceptions are astounding.

That being said, the death penalty doesn't seem to be a very effective
deterrent anyhow.


It's deterred everyone that's received it.


So is life without parole.


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Old June 21st 04, 07:46 PM
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Let me correct an obvious misperception you seem to have: people get killed
in prison, also!

Life without parole is not an absolute deterrent; the death penalty is...




"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Your misconceptions are astounding.

That being said, the death penalty doesn't seem to be a very effective
deterrent anyhow.


It's deterred everyone that's received it.


So is life without parole.




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Old June 21st 04, 08:44 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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Your misconceptions are astounding.

That being said, the death penalty doesn't seem to be a very effective
deterrent anyhow.


It's deterred everyone that's received it.


So is life without parole.


You sure about that?


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Old June 21st 04, 08:55 PM
Peter Gottlieb
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"Bill Denton" wrote in message
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Let me correct an obvious misperception you seem to have: people get

killed
in prison, also!

Life without parole is not an absolute deterrent; the death penalty is...



Why do you believe that I think people don't get killed in prison?

It's not that I'm against the death penalty, it's just that I am frustrated
that it doesn't seem to work all that well as a deterrent.


I say, step out of line whatsoever, and get the death penalty. Everything.
Speeding, flying over gross, unsubstianted tax deductions, EVERYTHING. And
no friggin appeals either. Screw these prisons wasting my tax dollars.
Can't or won't live with our laws? Death. Don't like the religion of the
president, elected by THE PEOPLE? Death. This should also help with this
terrible traffic situation we have around here.


 




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