AIRNAV not publishing fuel prices...

"Paulo Santos" wrote in message om...
So what are we doing to the businesses that don't pay? We typically
take out all their information, except their name, phone number, fuel
prices, and user comments. (To those business that order services
from us, promise to pay, and then fail to pay their bills, well, those
we remove altogether -- but you wouldn't want to do business with
those guys anyway.).

You better check that out with your buddies who are running the show.
It appears to me that non-participating businesses seem to have been
deleted entirely. I used to use AIRNAV as sort of an aviation yellow
pages when I needed to look up the phone number of an aviation business.
Several of the ones that I use seem to have been dropped entirely.

Your service has hence become too unreliable to be useful for me.
I

(Paulo Santos) wrote in message . com...
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Since you know so many business owners, if you like AirNav and want it
to continue to provide a good service you are in a good position to
help. You can help by thanking the buiness owners that believed in
the model and "ponied up", and encourage the others to sign up. It is
not going to break their bank, no matter how small they are.


You can bet that I already have. Most of the ones I know are not
Internet savvy and have asked me what the story was behind the
solicitation from Airnav. I've encouraged all of them to sign up, but
to many of them, paying for a listing on the Internet is like paying
for a billboard on Mars. They just don't go there.

Keep up the good work and good luck with the new revenue model.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

John Galban wrote:

You can bet that I already have. Most of the ones I know are not
Internet savvy and have asked me what the story was behind the
solicitation from Airnav. I've encouraged all of them to sign up, but
to many of them, paying for a listing on the Internet is like paying
for a billboard on Mars. They just don't go there.

But can you imagine the publicity should one of the rovers snap a picture of
a billboard?

Excuse me...I've a business plan to write up...

- Andrew

"Ron Natalie" wrote in
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You better check that out with your buddies who are running the show.
It appears to me that non-participating businesses seem to have been
deleted entirely.

Perhaps, but I see some that I use on Airnav, still there (at least fuel
prices, which is what Paulo promised). Most of these are fields that I
can't believe ANYONE paid ANYTHING to stay on the list. [Not, as I
mentioned before, because it isn't worthwhile, but because there is no one
"in charge" to pony up the money - and yes, they probably haven't heard of
the Internet either. G]

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James M. Knox
TriSoft ph 512-385-0316
1109-A Shady Lane fax 512-366-4331
Austin, Tx 78721
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What I ask of you is to publish just fuel prices for the FBOs that are
not able to make such payments. This is not happening; I know at least
two airports with new fuel service that the prices are not been
published.

The absence of FBO prices is generally unrelated to the FBOs paying or
not. In the past, even before we charged, there could be FBOs that
were not listed, or FBOs with wrong prices, etc. Things change fast,
and it's hard to keep up with all the changes.

Now that we charge you assume that the absence of the FBOs is due to
their lack of payment. Not necessarily. It could be simply becaus we
don;t know they're there.

Please tell me what the missing FBOs are and we will take care of it.

Paulo Santos
AirNav, LLC http://www.airnav.com/

"Paulo Santos" wrote in message
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What I ask of you is to publish just fuel prices for the FBOs that are
not able to make such payments. This is not happening; I know at least
two airports with new fuel service that the prices are not been
published.

The absence of FBO prices is generally unrelated to the FBOs paying or
not. In the past, even before we charged, there could be FBOs that
were not listed, or FBOs with wrong prices, etc. Things change fast,
and it's hard to keep up with all the changes.

Now that we charge you assume that the absence of the FBOs is due to
their lack of payment. Not necessarily. It could be simply becaus we
don;t know they're there.

Please tell me what the missing FBOs are and we will take care of it.


In this example: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KCOS , there's three FBO's.
One subscribes and two don't (IIUC). Yet two have fuel current prices and
one has not been updated in two years. Again, IIUC, the price updates are
submitted by users _or_ the FBO, correct?

Paul,

You likely have considered this, but just in case...

Have you considered allowing other sites access to your database for a fee?
For instance, there are several flight planning services that could add
value by having your information in their tools. If they currently have
similar information, perhaps they could get it more cheaply from you.

Also, there are several weather services that send requested information
into the cockpit on demand. Perhaps they would see a competitive edge if
they could add the different fuel prices with the weather at the
destination.

Love the site, keep up the good work.


"Paulo Santos" wrote in message
om...
What I ask of you is to publish just fuel prices for the FBOs that are
not able to make such payments. This is not happening; I know at least
two airports with new fuel service that the prices are not been
published.

The absence of FBO prices is generally unrelated to the FBOs paying or
not. In the past, even before we charged, there could be FBOs that
were not listed, or FBOs with wrong prices, etc. Things change fast,
and it's hard to keep up with all the changes.

Now that we charge you assume that the absence of the FBOs is due to
their lack of payment. Not necessarily. It could be simply becaus we
don;t know they're there.

Please tell me what the missing FBOs are and we will take care of it.

Paulo Santos
AirNav, LLC http://www.airnav.com/

TRY THIS LINK:

http://www.airnav.com/airport/2R8/A3/