Std Cirrus: Blue or Gray trim color ONLY!...why?

On my last annual, the IA showed me the AD's and a special note for
Standard Cirrus gliders that they can only have "light gray or blue
trim colors only." huh???

My contest ID is "medium gray" and I was told he would "let it slide
this year".......OK!!! Whatever!!

He wasn't making it up, he showed me the printout. The IA was just as
surprised as I was. Anyone know why this is?

Scott Alexander
Standard Cirrus #118

On Sep 5, 6:24*am, Scott Alexander
wrote:
On my last annual, the IA showed me the AD's and a special note for
Standard Cirrus gliders that they can only have "light gray or blue
trim colors only." *huh???

My contest ID is "medium gray" and I was told he would "let it slide
this year".......OK!!! Whatever!!

He wasn't making it up, he showed me the printout. *The IA was just as
surprised as I was. *Anyone know why this is?

Scott Alexander
Standard Cirrus #118

i believe it is to prevent hot spots. i think the Std Libelle and
perhaps other early glass ships have similar limitations.

After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

Look at the Schempp website, Tech notes and downloads, standard
cirrus, TM 278-4.
Jim

On Sep 5, 5:31*am, Scott Alexander
wrote:
After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. *How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? *Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

"Scott Alexander" wrote in message ...
After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

Scott,

If you are a member of the SSA you might want to read John Greene's article in the Sept 1975 issue of Soaring.
(http://www.ssa.org/magazine/archive/...onth=9&page=03)
The article is on PDF page 24 & 25.

I am sure similar tests are what lead up to the creation of the AD.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
(Which can be painted any color; however I have chosen white.)

"Scott Alexander" wrote in message ...
After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

Scott,

If you are a member of the SSA you might want to read John Greene's article in the Sept 1975 issue of Soaring.
(http://www.ssa.org/magazine/archive/...onth=9&page=03)
The article is on PDF page 24 & 25.

I am sure similar tests are what lead up to the creation of the AD.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
(Which can be painted any color; however I have chosen white.)

Haven't test by the military shown that anything other than all white
less visable?

Boggs

On Sep 5, 5:31*am, Scott Alexander
wrote:
After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. *How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? *Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

On Sep 5, 9:22*pm, GARY BOGGS wrote:
Haven't test by the military shown that anything other than all white
less visable?

Boggs

On Sep 5, 5:31*am, Scott Alexander
wrote:

After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. *How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? *Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

I think I heard that in Sweden that ALL sailplanes are required to
have "high visibility" wing tips, nose and tail. I know that several
imports from Sweden did come with such markings.

You might check with the manufacturer about how they meet the Sweden
requirements

Mike

At 05:16 06 September 2010, SoaringXCellence wrote:
On Sep 5, 9:22=A0pm, GARY BOGGS wrote:
Haven't test by the military shown that anything other than all white
less visable?

Boggs

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I think I heard that in Sweden that ALL sailplanes are required to
have "high visibility" wing tips, nose and tail. I know that several
imports from Sweden did come with such markings.

You might check with the manufacturer about how they meet the Sweden
requirements

Mike

Quite a long time ago, the BGA did some controlled tests re visibility
markings. I can't remember the details, but I am fairly certain that the
findings were that conspicuity patches etc did nothing to improve seeing
gliders in the air.
Dave

On Sep 5, 10:16*pm, SoaringXCellence wrote:
On Sep 5, 9:22*pm, GARY BOGGS wrote:

Haven't test by the military shown that anything other than all white
less visable?

Boggs

On Sep 5, 5:31*am, Scott Alexander
wrote:

After the multiple mid-airs we have had this year, I am wanting to add
some high-vis trim colors on the nose, wingtips and rudder. *How would
I go about getting approval for a high visibility color that isn't
blue or gray? *Or maybe there's a high visibility blue out there I can
use.

I think I heard that in Sweden that ALL sailplanes are required to
have "high visibility" wing tips, nose and tail. *I know that several
imports from Sweden did come with such markings.

You might check with the manufacturer about how they meet the Sweden
requirements

Mike

My understanding is that the hi-vis markings are for landing out in
snow. In the air, the darker tips tend to decrease visible span.
John