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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?



 
 
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Old August 29th 08, 08:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
BT
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Default Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?

there are no readily available statistics to answer that question.
we are working up the statistics on percentage of experimental aircraft vs
other aircraft based at the airport, and also the percentage of training, vs
local vs transient.

Many accidents in the past have involved transient pilots not familiar with
high density altitude operations or desert wind conditions.
BT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

NTSB statistics prove that of the 37 accidents at this airport since the
county took over in 1982, only 3 were experimental aircraft.


What percentage of all aircraft movements were experimental aircraft
during
the same period?



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Old August 30th 08, 04:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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BT writes:

there are no readily available statistics to answer that question.


Unfortunately, unless one knows the total number of movements of both
experimental and other aircraft, as well as the absolute numbers of accidents
for both, the latter alone isn't of much use.

we are working up the statistics on percentage of experimental aircraft vs
other aircraft based at the airport, and also the percentage of training, vs
local vs transient.


Movements would be much more cogent than the number of aircraft based at the
airport.

Many accidents in the past have involved transient pilots not familiar with
high density altitude operations or desert wind conditions.


Which airport is this?
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Old August 30th 08, 08:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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BT writes:

there are no readily available statistics to answer that question.


Unfortunately, unless one knows the total number of movements of both
experimental and other aircraft, as well as the absolute numbers of
accidents for both, the latter alone isn't of much use.


You are an idiot.


Bertie
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Old August 29th 08, 06:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas
airport.
A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower
that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no
pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire
crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed
short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to
people on the ground.

BT

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
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http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676



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Old August 29th 08, 03:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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Guess the moron will be calling for an end to all flights now since
this was not and experimental and not on a training or initial solo
operation.

BT wrote:
Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas
airport.
A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower
that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no
pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire
crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed
short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to
people on the ground.

BT

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
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http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676

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Old August 29th 08, 05:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Aug 28, 11:25*pm, "BT" wrote:
Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas
airport.
A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower
that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no
pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire
crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed
short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to
people on the ground.

BT

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
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What about the pilot? Did he survive?
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Old August 29th 08, 08:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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No..
A much respected and experienced pilot from the Palo Alto CA area



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What about the pilot? Did he survive?


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Old August 29th 08, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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BT wrote:

Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas
airport.
A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower
that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no
pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire
crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed
short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to
people on the ground.

BT

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...

http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676




Was that an "experimental" Navajo? Didn't think so. Looks like
certified airplanes crash too.

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Old August 30th 08, 10:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Gezellig
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:19:04 +0000, Scott wrote:

BT wrote:

Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas
airport.
A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower
that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no
pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire
crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed
short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to
people on the ground.

BT

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...

http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676


Was that an "experimental" Navajo? Didn't think so. Looks like
certified airplanes crash too.


The pilot got out, crawled on top, and was rescued about 20 metres
offshore by 3 drunk carpenters. Who used a mini-surf board. On the way
to shore, the pilot, over 70 said "Man, I think I had a stroke or
something".

So let's outlaw old pilots...in Navahos...near drunk carpenters.
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Old August 30th 08, 11:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Bob F.[_2_]
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"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:19:04 +0000, Scott wrote:

BT wrote:

Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las
Vegas
airport.
A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the
tower
that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo,
no
pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire
crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it
crashed
short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to
people on the ground.

BT

"T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in
message ...

http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676

Was that an "experimental" Navajo? Didn't think so. Looks like
certified airplanes crash too.


The pilot got out, crawled on top, and was rescued about 20 metres
offshore by 3 drunk carpenters. Who used a mini-surf board. On the way
to shore, the pilot, over 70 said "Man, I think I had a stroke or
something".

So let's outlaw old pilots...in Navahos...near drunk carpenters.



So I have to ask? How many "strokes" did it take for him to get to shore?
:-)

--
Regards, Bob F.

 




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