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Old February 27th 05, 08:31 AM
C J Campbell
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The Air Force manual "Air Navigation" is on line he
http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfi...fpam11-216.pdf

This manual answers several FAQ that have come up that even some instructors
have no definitive answer for. Examples of things contained in this pamphlet
a

How to navigate directly from one radio fix to another without using GPS
(you can solve it in seconds on your E6-B).

How to read a map.

How to tell how far away an object on the ground is.

How to navigate using stars.

Re-computing heading and distance using dead reckoning.

The mathematical formulas for solving wind triangles.

The rule of 60 for computing descents.

How to do grid navigation.

The pamphlet is 427 pages long so it might take awhile to download, but I
think it is extremely worthwhile.

"Air Navigation" is a supplement to AFPAM 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and
Procedures," which may be found on the same site.

--
Christopher J. Campbell
World Famous Flight Instructor
Port Orchard, WA


Ne Obliviscaris



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Old February 27th 05, 08:39 AM
C J Campbell
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Air Navigation" is a supplement to AFPAM 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and
Procedures," which may be found on the same site.


Excuse me, I meant AFPD 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and Procedures."


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Old February 27th 05, 04:21 PM
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My wife (a legacy from her family) refers to things like People Magazine
as books.

Conversely, only a government agency would refer to a 427 page document
as a "pamphlet" on the cover page.

Bur nonetheless interesting

JJF


C J Campbell wrote:
"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Air Navigation" is a supplement to AFPAM 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and
Procedures," which may be found on the same site.



Excuse me, I meant AFPD 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and Procedures."


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Old February 27th 05, 04:49 PM
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Thanks CJ.
This complements nicely my copy of Technical Manual 1-205, AIR
NAVIGATION, issued by the War Department, Washington, November 25, 1940.
The front cover is stamped "GOVERNMENT PROPERTY" CONTRACT W686AC27368.

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Old February 27th 05, 05:02 PM
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This is a newer version of my AFM 51-37 and AFM 51-50
BT

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Air Navigation" is a supplement to AFPAM 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and
Procedures," which may be found on the same site.


Excuse me, I meant AFPD 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and Procedures."




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Old February 27th 05, 07:08 PM
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For the new AFM 51-37 you can download the AFMAN 11-217

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 09:02:17 -0800, "BTIZ"
wrote:

This is a newer version of my AFM 51-37 and AFM 51-50
BT

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...

"Air Navigation" is a supplement to AFPAM 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and
Procedures," which may be found on the same site.


Excuse me, I meant AFPD 11-2 "Aircraft Rules and Procedures."




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Old February 28th 05, 12:14 AM
vincent p. norris
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This manual answers several FAQ that have come up that even some instructors
have no definitive answer for. Examples of things contained in this pamphlet
a

How to navigate directly from one radio fix to another without using GPS
(you can solve it in seconds on your E6-B).

How to read a map.

Re-computing heading and distance using dead reckoning.

There are INSTRUCTORS who don't know those things? Incredible!

There shouldn't even be any private pilots who don't know them!

But unfortunately, I know there are. Now I know why.

How to navigate using stars.


If you mean knowing how to find North, I thought even most kids knew
that.

If you mean celestial navigation, there isn't much point in private
pilots learning that, unless it's just to satisfy their intellectual
curiosity. Celestial nav requires expensive equipment and intensive
training; and in any case is virtually impossible to carry out while
flying a private aircraft.

I understand even the Naval Academy no longer teaches celestial nav,
which does kinda sadden me, if only for nostalgic reasons.

vince norris
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Old February 28th 05, 12:16 AM
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:21:10 -0600, Foster wrote:

My wife (a legacy from her family) refers to things like People Magazine
as books.


It's standard usage in the magazine business to refer to them as
"books."

vince norris
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Old February 28th 05, 12:51 AM
C J Campbell
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"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
news
This manual answers several FAQ that have come up that even some

instructors
have no definitive answer for. Examples of things contained in this

pamphlet
a

How to navigate directly from one radio fix to another without using GPS
(you can solve it in seconds on your E6-B).

How to read a map.

Re-computing heading and distance using dead reckoning.

There are INSTRUCTORS who don't know those things? Incredible!


Be careful about jumping to conclusions. There are all kinds of people who
were taught improperly or who have forgotten what they were taught perhaps
years ago. I never take it for granted or assume that anything was included
in any particular syllabus.

This reference I thought was particularly well written, an aid to those who
want another resource to teach their students, and something that had all
this material on navigation in one place. On the other hand, I suppose I
could adopt your attitude and simply sneer at the world for being so
ignorant, and refuse to share knowledge with it. I don't think I will,
though. I have to teach something. I can't help it. Been that way as long as
I can remember.


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Old February 28th 05, 01:17 AM
Roy Smith
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vincent p. norris wrote:
If you mean celestial navigation, there isn't much point in private
pilots learning that, unless it's just to satisfy their intellectual
curiosity. Celestial nav requires expensive equipment and intensive
training; and in any case is virtually impossible to carry out while
flying a private aircraft.


The equipment isn't really that expensive. You can buy a reconditioned
aviation sextant for $990
(http://www.celestaire.com/catalog/products/1502.html), and perfectly good
brand new marine one for about $400 ($1,000 for a top-of-the-line model).
You'll need a "chronometer" (which these days means a $10 digital watch)
and some books of astronomical tables (or, more likely these days, a
program for your calculator or laptop).

There is certainly an investment in training (probably 20 hours of
classroom time). The biggest problem is that any aircraft most of us are
ever likely to get access to won't have an observation port. For $5.4
Million, however, you could get yourself a T-43A
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/t-43.htm) and go to town. Flight
crew not included.

I understand even the Naval Academy no longer teaches celestial nav,
which does kinda sadden me, if only for nostalgic reasons.


I agree with Vincent. Celestial nav is cool, but just isn't useful any
more. It's an interesting thing to learn, but only any practical value is
long since gone. GPS drove the last nail in the celestial coffin 10 years
ago.
 




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