Bending extruded angle

To All:

Extrusions of every type are common stuff in airplanes but many homebuilders
may not be aware of the fact the extruded shape usually receives additional
forming. Extruded angle, for example, may be opened or closed by as much as
twenty degrees (depending on the alloy). It is also common practice to alter
the width of the flanges by milling or sawing, cutting them to a taper or
machining them to accept stringers or other fittings. The thickness of an
extrusion may also be altered to produce joggles or indentations needed to
accommodate other components. Extrusions may be formed into circles, ovals or
round-cornered rectangles and used as the frames for ports, hatches and so
forth. When the flange is on the inside of the curve the extrusion is usually
drilled & slotted to accommodate the bend, which is then reenforced with a
doubler or scab plate. But when the flange is on the outside of the curve it
may be bent to the required shape by hammering alone.

Re-forming an extrusion differs only slightly from every other type of forming
operation. For serial production the manufacturer will usually design tooling
using rollers or dies to do the re-forming so the required number of parts can
be produced accurately and quickly without calling on a skilled metalsmith.
But for one-offs, such as a homebuilt, the work is usually done by hand using
mallets of wood, rawhide or lead, as appropriate, bapping the angle over a
maple vee-block to form curves, over a polished cylindrical anvil to open the
angle or simply tapping directly on the flanges to close them (or to form an
angle that tapers along the length of the member). For homebuilts, tapering an
extrusion is usually done with a table saw and most milling operations are
accomplished with files.

The fact an extrusion arrives at the plant (or in your driveway) a quarter of
an inch thick with two inch flanges and a perfect ninety degree angle between
them does not mean it has to stay that way. The extrusion is simply a
convenient starting point for whatever shape the design happens to require.
This sort of thing is a normal part of building metal airplanes and because of
it, is seldom mentioned specifically in manuals devoted to aviation
metalsmithing although most include illustrations of the various procedures
used to reform extrusions.

I've taken the trouble to post this message after a confused and rather funny
exchange with a fellow building a Teenie Two, which uses extrusions for a
number of components. On the wing spars the extrusions are filed, milled or
routed so as to nest with the shear-web in a manner similar to the method used
on the Spitfire and which the builder had no trouble understanding. But at the
firewall the extrusions must be reformed to match angles dictated by the shape
of the fuselage and the builder was not aware that it's perfectly legal to
reform the extrusion by bending, so long as the resulting angle does not
violate the malleability nor the temper of the stock being used. He also knew
about slotting the inner flange to facilitate the formation of an inward bend.
The funny part of the exchange was my assumption the fellow knew about bapping
extrusions into whatever shape is required for an OUTWARD bend, which does not
require slotting. With that assumption as the foundation, his question about
making the required angles caused me to think he was using an anvil of the
wrong radius or simply wasn't hitting the thing hard enough, so I'm telling him
to use a bar of smaller diameter, a heavier hammer or to hit it harder,
convincing him I was a total loon when it came to tin-bending :-)

Calvin Parker is an excellent metalsmith, as shown by the simple sophistication
of his design. Unfortunately the techniques needed to produce those elegantly
simple junctions of extruded angle are left as an exercise for the student.

If you've never re-formed an extrusion you might want to try making ring of the
stuff. Basic tool is a hammer and a sturdy block of wood, slotted to accept
the down-angle, with a generous vee under the area where the bending will
occur. Put the work-piece on the block, tap (gently) near the junction of the
flanges with a heavy mallet as if you were trying to drive the piece into the
vee of the block and you will see the piece begin to curve. The required
stretching of the material in the down-angle is then adjusted and made more
regular by light hammering near the edge of the flange whilst supported on a
steel block. The result is an artful curve which if done for the full length
of the piece will produce a neat ring of extruded aluminum, as for the base of
a nacelle or the frame of a window or hatch.

-R.S.Hoover

Thanks for sharing again, Hoover.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

Excellent work, Dubber.

...a book Hoov! You've got to compile all of this wisdom and put it into a
BOOK! ...or at least a 3-ring binder set that all of us RAH'ers can get ahold
of at Osh. or SnF.

Harry "a little help here Wilbur?" Frey
Wright Brothers Enterprises

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
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On 23 Aug 2004 16:16:02 GMT,
(Wright1902Glider) wrote:

:..a book Hoov! You've got to compile all of this wisdom and put it into
a
:BOOK! ...or at least a 3-ring binder set that all of us RAH'ers can get
ahold
f at Osh. or SnF.
:
:Harry "a little help here Wilbur?" Frey
:Wright Brothers Enterprises

I second the motion. I'll pay $20 for a copy. Publish on demand would
only cost about $3.

I'd sure be high on the list if ever there was a book available that was
written by Bob Hoover, the VeeDuber. I have the highest regard for that
young man! Whenever I see one of his posts, I never miss reading it,
whatever the topic.

Ron

I've got a case of paper and a fresh ink cartridge awaiting the glorious day...

Harry

PS: My g/f keeps telling me I should write a book about the "experience" that
we had with the Wright machine. If I ever do get around to it, there will be a
generous ammt. of "and here's how I made this part."

"Ron" no one @home.com wrote in message ...
"Richard Riley" wrote in message
...
On 23 Aug 2004 16:16:02 GMT,
(Wright1902Glider) wrote:

:..a book Hoov! You've got to compile all of this wisdom and put it into
a
:BOOK! ...or at least a 3-ring binder set that all of us RAH'ers can get
ahold
f at Osh. or SnF.


I second the motion. I'll pay $20 for a copy. Publish on demand would
only cost about $3.

Another customer waiting for the book here. I'd like to see a full
autobiography. I suspect there are plenty of other wounderful stories
of old fashion wisdom and common sense to make a very entertaining
read. $20 would be a buy........
===============
Leon McAtee
Too bad I'm a lousy word smith or I'd offer to ghost.

Leon McAtee wrote:
"Ron" no one @home.com wrote in message ...

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
. ..

On 23 Aug 2004 16:16:02 GMT,
(Wright1902Glider) wrote:

:..a book Hoov! You've got to compile all of this wisdom and put it into

a

:BOOK! ...or at least a 3-ring binder set that all of us RAH'ers can get

ahold

f at Osh. or SnF.



I second the motion. I'll pay $20 for a copy. Publish on demand would
only cost about $3.


Another customer waiting for the book here. I'd like to see a full
autobiography. I suspect there are plenty of other wounderful stories
of old fashion wisdom and common sense to make a very entertaining
read. $20 would be a buy........
===============
Leon McAtee
Too bad I'm a lousy word smith or I'd offer to ghost.

If the young man did nothing more than collect his old Usenet posting
into a binder I'd stand in line to give up $20 for it. It'd still be
cheap at twice the price.

--
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/
"Ignorance is mankinds normal state,
alleviated by information and experience."
Veeduber

All those clammoring for a book can do it themselves by this Google
Groups advanced search, and firing up their printer:

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe....com&lr=&hl=en

If you're only interested in Rec.Aviation.Homebuilt stuff, try this:

http://groups.google.com/groups?safe...&num=100&hl=en

This misses about 55 megs of drawings, pictures, and other text that
were formerly posted in other places, but that Bob pulled down due to
repeated violations of the Social Contract, I.E. scurvy dogs taking
his work and passing it off as their own, for money. Ask him nice,
and he may cough up some of it. For you. Only.

Take my word for it, Bob ain't gonna produce a book, on demand or
otherwise.

Ernest Christley wrote in message om...
Leon McAtee wrote:
"Ron" no one @home.com wrote in message ...

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
. ..

On 23 Aug 2004 16:16:02 GMT,
(Wright1902Glider) wrote:

:..a book Hoov! You've got to compile all of this wisdom and put it into

a

:BOOK! ...or at least a 3-ring binder set that all of us RAH'ers can get

ahold

f at Osh. or SnF.



I second the motion. I'll pay $20 for a copy. Publish on demand would
only cost about $3.


Another customer waiting for the book here. I'd like to see a full
autobiography. I suspect there are plenty of other wounderful stories
of old fashion wisdom and common sense to make a very entertaining
read. $20 would be a buy........
===============
Leon McAtee
Too bad I'm a lousy word smith or I'd offer to ghost.

If the young man did nothing more than collect his old Usenet posting
into a binder I'd stand in line to give up $20 for it. It'd still be
cheap at twice the price.