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Antonov control cables
I was at an airshow this summer and saw an Antonov AN-2 Colt. I have
always liked them since I saw the first one ever brought into the country back in 1976. This time I noticed the rudder control cables. The end of the cable at the rudder horns was wrapped around a thimble but then things got weird. The cable was not clamped back on itself with a copper sleeve like a nicopress sleeve and it was not woven into itself like a tuck splice. The cable looked like it was simply wrapped over itself three or four times and then covered with some kind of heat shrinkable metal sleeve. This metal sleeve was definitely shrunken over cable and you could see that the bitter end of the cable was wrapped around the standing end. This sleeve was not rubber or plastic like the heat shrink used in wiring. I scraped at with my fingernail and it was definitely metal of some sort. I would estimate now that the sleeve was at least two inches long and maybe longer. Has anyone else noticed this with Soviet/Russian style aircraft? Is this standard practice in Eastern Europe? Any idea how this technique compares with Nicopress or the tuck splice for strength and durability? Regards to all, John Dupre' |
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John wrote: The cable looked like it was simply wrapped over itself three or four times and then covered with some kind of heat shrinkable metal sleeve. This metal sleeve was definitely shrunken over cable and you could see that the bitter end of the cable was wrapped around the standing end. This sleeve was not rubber or plastic like the heat shrink used in wiring. I scraped at with my fingernail and it was definitely metal of some sort. I would estimate now that the sleeve was at least two inches long and maybe longer. I've never heard or seen of such a thing, and I worked as a sailboat rigger, and made aircraft cables on contract at the plant I worked at. All I can think of is that this is a copper, dead soft aluminum, or lead sleeve that's been smacked between the jaws of a punch press or rotary swager, with RUBBER dies, to make the soft metal flow, conform, and essentially room temperature forge around the cable. |
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The russky designer s are among the best in the world working under
conditions that make a third world country look like paradise... Your best bet is to assume that they have found a solution that is so slick that it eludes us here in Pleasantville... denny |
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Call these guys, http://www.dakotariggers.com/ I have a friend that works
there and if it's cable and they haven't heard of it, it probably doesn't exist. John Stricker "John" wrote in message ups.com... I was at an airshow this summer and saw an Antonov AN-2 Colt. I have always liked them since I saw the first one ever brought into the country back in 1976. This time I noticed the rudder control cables. The end of the cable at the rudder horns was wrapped around a thimble but then things got weird. The cable was not clamped back on itself with a copper sleeve like a nicopress sleeve and it was not woven into itself like a tuck splice. The cable looked like it was simply wrapped over itself three or four times and then covered with some kind of heat shrinkable metal sleeve. This metal sleeve was definitely shrunken over cable and you could see that the bitter end of the cable was wrapped around the standing end. This sleeve was not rubber or plastic like the heat shrink used in wiring. I scraped at with my fingernail and it was definitely metal of some sort. I would estimate now that the sleeve was at least two inches long and maybe longer. Has anyone else noticed this with Soviet/Russian style aircraft? Is this standard practice in Eastern Europe? Any idea how this technique compares with Nicopress or the tuck splice for strength and durability? Regards to all, John Dupre' |
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Hi,
It's usual solution for Russian homebuilders and if I remeber it was one of possible standard procedure in industry for cable repairing. Of course no shrinkable metal was used but flattened copper (or bronze) tube. You need to insert the line twice shaping a loop and then twist this tube 3,4 times. Have no details, sorry, but hope it helps. Kestas JStricker wrote: Call these guys, http://www.dakotariggers.com/ I have a friend that works there and if it's cable and they haven't heard of it, it probably doesn't exist. John Stricker "John" wrote in message ups.com... I was at an airshow this summer and saw an Antonov AN-2 Colt. I have always liked them since I saw the first one ever brought into the country back in 1976. This time I noticed the rudder control cables. The end of the cable at the rudder horns was wrapped around a thimble but then things got weird. The cable was not clamped back on itself with a copper sleeve like a nicopress sleeve and it was not woven into itself like a tuck splice. The cable looked like it was simply wrapped over itself three or four times and then covered with some kind of heat shrinkable metal sleeve. This metal sleeve was definitely shrunken over cable and you could see that the bitter end of the cable was wrapped around the standing end. This sleeve was not rubber or plastic like the heat shrink used in wiring. I scraped at with my fingernail and it was definitely metal of some sort. I would estimate now that the sleeve was at least two inches long and maybe longer. Has anyone else noticed this with Soviet/Russian style aircraft? Is this standard practice in Eastern Europe? Any idea how this technique compares with Nicopress or the tuck splice for strength and durability? Regards to all, John Dupre' |
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"John" wrote in message
ups.com... I was at an airshow this summer and saw an Antonov AN-2 Colt. I have always liked them since I saw the first one ever brought into the country back in 1976. This time I noticed the rudder control cables. The end of the cable at the rudder horns was wrapped around a thimble but then things got weird. The cable was not clamped back on itself with a copper sleeve like a nicopress sleeve and it was not woven into itself like a tuck splice. The cable looked like it was simply wrapped over itself three or four times and then covered with some kind of heat shrinkable metal sleeve. This metal sleeve was definitely shrunken over cable and you could see that the bitter end of the cable was wrapped around the standing end. This sleeve was not rubber or plastic like the heat shrink used in wiring. I scraped at with my fingernail and it was definitely metal of some sort. I would estimate now that the sleeve was at least two inches long and maybe longer. Has anyone else noticed this with Soviet/Russian style aircraft? Is this standard practice in Eastern Europe? Any idea how this technique compares with Nicopress or the tuck splice for strength and durability? Regards to all, John Dupre' John, did you take any pictures? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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No I didn't. It was really a pretty lousy day for photography
(Barnes/Westfield). What I remember is that the "sleeve" was very thin and you could see how the cable was wrapped over itself. The "sleeve" was formed pretty tightly over wraps of cable. That is why I compared it to heat shrink tubing since it had flowed and formed so completely over the cable. I don't remember any seams as from a pair of dies that might have been used to compress the "sleeve". The wrapped portion of the cable seemed round in cross section not crushed or flattened. It really looked like the "sleeve" had been shrunk over the cable. Juan Jimenez wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... I was at an airshow this summer and saw an Antonov AN-2 Colt. I have always liked them since I saw the first one ever brought into the country back in 1976. This time I noticed the rudder control cables. The end of the cable at the rudder horns was wrapped around a thimble but then things got weird. The cable was not clamped back on itself with a copper sleeve like a nicopress sleeve and it was not woven into itself like a tuck splice. The cable looked like it was simply wrapped over itself three or four times and then covered with some kind of heat shrinkable metal sleeve. This metal sleeve was definitely shrunken over cable and you could see that the bitter end of the cable was wrapped around the standing end. This sleeve was not rubber or plastic like the heat shrink used in wiring. I scraped at with my fingernail and it was definitely metal of some sort. I would estimate now that the sleeve was at least two inches long and maybe longer. Has anyone else noticed this with Soviet/Russian style aircraft? Is this standard practice in Eastern Europe? Any idea how this technique compares with Nicopress or the tuck splice for strength and durability? Regards to all, John Dupre' John, did you take any pictures? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Ah, I understand. Too bad, I would have loved to see what that looked like.
If you get another chance, don't forget to snap a pic. Juan "John" wrote in message ups.com... No I didn't. It was really a pretty lousy day for photography (Barnes/Westfield). What I remember is that the "sleeve" was very thin and you could see how the cable was wrapped over itself. The "sleeve" was formed pretty tightly over wraps of cable. That is why I compared it to heat shrink tubing since it had flowed and formed so completely over the cable. I don't remember any seams as from a pair of dies that might have been used to compress the "sleeve". The wrapped portion of the cable seemed round in cross section not crushed or flattened. It really looked like the "sleeve" had been shrunk over the cable. Juan Jimenez wrote: "John" wrote in message ups.com... I was at an airshow this summer and saw an Antonov AN-2 Colt. I have always liked them since I saw the first one ever brought into the country back in 1976. This time I noticed the rudder control cables. The end of the cable at the rudder horns was wrapped around a thimble but then things got weird. The cable was not clamped back on itself with a copper sleeve like a nicopress sleeve and it was not woven into itself like a tuck splice. The cable looked like it was simply wrapped over itself three or four times and then covered with some kind of heat shrinkable metal sleeve. This metal sleeve was definitely shrunken over cable and you could see that the bitter end of the cable was wrapped around the standing end. This sleeve was not rubber or plastic like the heat shrink used in wiring. I scraped at with my fingernail and it was definitely metal of some sort. I would estimate now that the sleeve was at least two inches long and maybe longer. Has anyone else noticed this with Soviet/Russian style aircraft? Is this standard practice in Eastern Europe? Any idea how this technique compares with Nicopress or the tuck splice for strength and durability? Regards to all, John Dupre' John, did you take any pictures? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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