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Old March 9th 12, 12:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jim[_18_]
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Has anybody had experience with these heated soles in a glider: http://gerbing.com/Products/insoles.php ? would it be better to get sock?

Some of these types of products have horrible reviews but these have good reviews on a retailer's website.

Most of the threads on heated socks are old and are about wave flying. My issue is that it’s often over 105 degrees F on the ground but after a few hours above 14k my feet get painfully cold and would like something that I can turn on later in the flight.

I’m thinking of powering these off a dedicated sealed lead acid battery as I think the newer batteries are risky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlZggVrF9VI

Thanks,
Jim
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Old March 9th 12, 02:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob
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Default Cold Feet

On Mar 8, 5:37*pm, Jim wrote:
Has anybody had experience with these heated soles in a glider:http://gerbing.com/Products/insoles.php* ? would it be better to get sock?

Some of these types of products have horrible reviews but these have good reviews on a retailer's website.

Most of the threads on heated socks are old and are about wave flying. My issue is that it’s often over 105 degrees F on the ground but after a few hours above 14k my feet get painfully cold and would like something that I can turn on later in the flight.

I’m thinking of powering these off a dedicated sealed lead acid battery as I think the newer batteries are risky: *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlZggVrF9VI

Thanks,
Jim


I don't have much to say about socks, but my answer to cold feet,
which has worked for over a decade for me, is to put on a pair of
Sorel snow boots just before launch. My feet don't get sweaty in the
short time to get towed up and climb up to altitude, and my feet are
comfy the entire flight. I fly out west, where it can be hot on the
ground, but soar mostly in the high teens, where it is always cold. I
wear tennis shoes on the ground, and put them behind my seat just
before launch, as I change into the Sorels. I hear lots of folks
complaining about cold feet, and having to go down to thaw their feet
out. Many of them have now followed my lead, and are now comfy hi
fliers. (and No batteries needed)

Bob
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Old March 9th 12, 03:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Default Cold Feet

On 3/8/2012 4:37 PM, Jim wrote:
Has anybody had experience with these heated soles in a glider:
http://gerbing.com/Products/insoles.php ? would it be better to get
sock?

Some of these types of products have horrible reviews but these have
good reviews on a retailer's website.

Most of the threads on heated socks are old and are about wave
flying. My issue is that it’s often over 105 degrees F on the ground
but after a few hours above 14k my feet get painfully cold and would
like something that I can turn on later in the flight.

I’m thinking of powering these off a dedicated sealed lead acid
battery as I think the newer batteries are risky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlZggVrF9VI


These seem like the niftiest warmers, but I've not tried them. Wireless
and remote controlled.

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email me)
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Old March 9th 12, 03:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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On 3/8/2012 7:25 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 3/8/2012 4:37 PM, Jim wrote:
Has anybody had experience with these heated soles in a glider:
http://gerbing.com/Products/insoles.php ? would it be better to get
sock?

Some of these types of products have horrible reviews but these have
good reviews on a retailer's website.

Most of the threads on heated socks are old and are about wave
flying. My issue is that it’s often over 105 degrees F on the ground
but after a few hours above 14k my feet get painfully cold and would
like something that I can turn on later in the flight.

I’m thinking of powering these off a dedicated sealed lead acid
battery as I think the newer batteries are risky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlZggVrF9VI


These seem like the niftiest warmers, but I've not tried them. Wireless
and remote controlled.


And adding the link!

http://www.thermacell.com/heated-insoles-foot-warmers


--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
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Old March 9th 12, 05:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jim[_18_]
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Thanks Eric, missed them in my search. Will try them although I'm a little concerned about the lithium batteries.

The boots sound good but I'm wearing climbing shoes to get my size 12 feet to fit in the pointy Schleicher nose.

Jim
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Old March 9th 12, 09:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Reed von Gal
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Anyone ever try military surplus Bunny Boots? I think they are rated
to some ridiculously low temperature like -65 F and come with a
pressure release valve for high altitude flight. Seems like the
perfect "wave" boot. They are also linerless so I assume your feet
wont sweat on the ground like in Sorels. I always see them on Flying
Wild Alaska, a lot of people, including the pilots wear them. I saw a
few pairs at store here in CO and was thinking of picking some up.
Might be a little clunky for some gliders, but am sure they would do
fine in our 2-32 wave ship.
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Old March 9th 12, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
David Salmon[_2_]
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At 09:33 09 March 2012, Reed von Gal wrote:
Anyone ever try military surplus Bunny Boots? I think they are rated
to some ridiculously low temperature like -65 F and come with a
pressure release valve for high altitude flight. Seems like the
perfect "wave" boot. They are also linerless so I assume your feet
wont sweat on the ground like in Sorels. I always see them on Flying
Wild Alaska, a lot of people, including the pilots wear them. I saw a
few pairs at store here in CO and was thinking of picking some up.
Might be a little clunky for some gliders, but am sure they would do
fine in our 2-32 wave ship.

I can also confirm that the Gerbing insoles work well.
Dave

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Old March 18th 12, 05:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Uwe Kleinhempel
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Default Cold Feet

On Mar 8, 8:34*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 3/8/2012 7:25 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:









On 3/8/2012 4:37 PM, Jim wrote:
Has anybody had experience with these heated soles in a glider:
http://gerbing.com/Products/insoles.php? would it be better to get
sock?


Some of these types of products have horrible reviews but these have
good reviews on a retailer's website.


Most of the threads on heated socks are old and are about wave
flying. My issue is that it’s often over 105 degrees F on the ground
but after a few hours above 14k myfeetget painfullycoldand would
like something that I can turn on later in the flight.


I’m thinking of powering these off a dedicated sealed lead acid
battery as I think the newer batteries are risky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlZggVrF9VI


These seem like the niftiest warmers, but I've not tried them. Wireless
and remote controlled.


And adding the link!

http://www.thermacell.com/heated-insoles-foot-warmers

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)


Hi Eric,

Thanks for the post and good to know we have options. However, after
evaluating the options and doing some analysis I've decided and
ordered the Gerbing insoles. The wireless insoles look very appealing.
But my concern is if something would go wrong with the battery or a
short in the wire, I recall the overheated laptop batteries a few
years ago, then there is no way that I can get out of my boots in
flight or disconnect the power. This may be an option to some pilots
but not for me and I consider that a 'risk' not worth taking.
At least I can disconnect the battery form the Gerbing insoles.

Regards,
Uwe
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Old March 18th 12, 05:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Cold Feet

Well... You *could* bail out and remove your boots during the parachute
descent...

:-0



"Uwe Kleinhempel" wrote in message
...
On Mar 8, 8:34 pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 3/8/2012 7:25 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:









On 3/8/2012 4:37 PM, Jim wrote:
Has anybody had experience with these heated soles in a glider:
http://gerbing.com/Products/insoles.php? would it be better to get
sock?


Some of these types of products have horrible reviews but these have
good reviews on a retailer's website.


Most of the threads on heated socks are old and are about wave
flying. My issue is that it’s often over 105 degrees F on the ground
but after a few hours above 14k myfeetget painfullycoldand would
like something that I can turn on later in the flight.


I’m thinking of powering these off a dedicated sealed lead acid
battery as I think the newer batteries are risky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlZggVrF9VI


These seem like the niftiest warmers, but I've not tried them. Wireless
and remote controlled.


And adding the link!

http://www.thermacell.com/heated-insoles-foot-warmers

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)


Hi Eric,

Thanks for the post and good to know we have options. However, after
evaluating the options and doing some analysis I've decided and
ordered the Gerbing insoles. The wireless insoles look very appealing.
But my concern is if something would go wrong with the battery or a
short in the wire, I recall the overheated laptop batteries a few
years ago, then there is no way that I can get out of my boots in
flight or disconnect the power. This may be an option to some pilots
but not for me and I consider that a 'risk' not worth taking.
At least I can disconnect the battery form the Gerbing insoles.

Regards,
Uwe

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Old March 20th 12, 03:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Stu
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Default Cold Feet

On Mar 18, 11:42*am, "Dan Marotta" wrote:
Well... *You *could* bail out and remove your boots during the parachute
descent...

:-0

"Uwe Kleinhempel" wrote in message

...
On Mar 8, 8:34 pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:





On 3/8/2012 7:25 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:


On 3/8/2012 4:37 PM, Jim wrote:
Has anybody had experience with these heated soles in a glider:
http://gerbing.com/Products/insoles.php?would it be better to get
sock?


Some of these types of products have horrible reviews but these have
good reviews on a retailer's website.


Most of the threads on heated socks are old and are about wave
flying. My issue is that it’s often over 105 degrees F on the ground
but after a few hours above 14k myfeetget painfullycoldand would
like something that I can turn on later in the flight.


I’m thinking of powering these off a dedicated sealed lead acid
battery as I think the newer batteries are risky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlZggVrF9VI


These seem like the niftiest warmers, but I've not tried them. Wireless
and remote controlled.


And adding the link!


http://www.thermacell.com/heated-insoles-foot-warmers


--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)


Hi Eric,

Thanks for the post and good to know we have options. However, after
evaluating the options and doing some analysis I've decided and
ordered the Gerbing insoles. The wireless insoles look very appealing.
But my concern is if something would go wrong with the battery or a
short in the wire, I recall the overheated laptop batteries a few
years ago, then there is no way that I can get out of my boots in
flight or disconnect the power. This may be an option to some pilots
but not for me and I consider that a 'risk' not worth taking.
At least I can disconnect the battery form the Gerbing insoles.

Regards,
Uwe- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Several of us in Idaho are using Hotronics e4 boot warmers for both
skiing and soaring. My toes have been frost bitten several times so
they are very sensitive to the cold and soaring in the Spring we
frequently have temps near 10 f. The heat settings can be changed in
flight and they work for over 5 hours on the medium setting.

Stu
2Z
 




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