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Old August 13th 20, 08:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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A bit slow on this - sorry..

I can't find any information that backs up your 'ones build before 2001 do not have a life limit' statement - are you able to share? I'd love to find some definitive info on this, as my rigger won't back my immaculate 20 year old chute.

The manual here clearly states that softie chutes have a 20 year service life (see 1.4) :

http://www.softieparachutes.com/asse...v2.0-08-09.pdf

Cheers,
Nick
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Old August 13th 20, 01:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Ross[_3_]
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Let me put it another way

If Schleicher were to put a service limit of 20 years on a glider and just write it in the manual would you say that is the new limit or does it require more?
Would you still fly it if it was older than 20 years?
Would your inspector continue to inspect it on condition?

These questions are more out of curiosity than anything else.
Maybe the manufacturers could do this to us one day. Who knows?
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Old August 13th 20, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Scott Williams[_2_]
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On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 1:22:46 PM UTC-5, Ross wrote:
Due to an upgrade to a steerable chute I am selling my Softie Mini
Made 1998 and last packed last year it is still in very good condition
Color blue, std release
Open to sensible offers


I think this is a summary of some '20 year life limit' myths,
Civilian use parachutes were evaluated and received "TSO" approval back in the '60s, '70's, and the original manufactured specifications had no life limits.
sometime in the 1990-2000's the recreational parachute industry, and a vocal Guy, (Allen Silver or some such name) expressed an opinion that a rig should have a life limit. also in the 1980's there was an acid issue with some materials used in the production of parachutes which introduced a concern of "undetectable deficiencies" in the strength and reliability of parachutes.
As this opinion became more widespread, it has resulted in a culture among riggers to refuse to inspect or pack a rig based on age.
Complicating the issue was an adoption of this opinion into some manuals of parachutes by manufacturers. These changes in the manuals can be interpreted as mandatory, but were not the result of a change in the original TSO.
Also, Military parachutes have a life limit, and some countries do impose a life limit, I think Germany has a federally imposed life limit.

Please, anyone with a more solid grasp on the facts, chime in.
respect,
Scott
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Old August 13th 20, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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I'd get a new rigger.Â* My previous Pioneer Thin Pack parachute was
inspected and packed for over 40 years.Â* It was finally rejected due to
wear and tear on the harness straps.

On 8/13/2020 1:25 AM, wrote:
A bit slow on this - sorry..

I can't find any information that backs up your 'ones build before 2001 do not have a life limit' statement - are you able to share? I'd love to find some definitive info on this, as my rigger won't back my immaculate 20 year old chute.

The manual here clearly states that softie chutes have a 20 year service life (see 1.4) :

http://www.softieparachutes.com/asse...v2.0-08-09.pdf

Cheers,
Nick


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Old August 14th 20, 02:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Guy Acheson[_2_]
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My rigger has no absolute life limit on chutes made out of synthetic materials.
He inspects and tests the lines and canopy.
Talk to other riggers about their policies.
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Old August 14th 20, 05:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I have a German Paratec Aviator parachute which has no life limit.
 




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