MSNBC / NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE: 9/11 "Hijackers" Trained in SECURE U.S. MILITARY INSTALLATIONS

MSNBC / NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE:

full article: http://tinyurl.com/5q282


EXCERPT:

Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases.
The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI


Sept. 15 — U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that
suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in
Tuesday’s terror attacks received training at SECURE U.S. MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS in the 1990s.



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The following is information concerning the trial of Zacarias Moussaui:



Media Misrepresentation of Moussaui Trial

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It should be exposed that Colleen Rowley, who wound up as one of three
"Women of the Year" for her whistleblowing action as an FBI field agent,
tried to alert her FBI superiors that Moussaui was exhibiting suspicious
behavior at his flight school. She tried to get a FISA warrant granted to
see what was on his laptop computer. However, Marion "Spike" Bowman and
John Ashcroft made sure that didn't happen.

From the Star Tribune in Minneapolis, MN on 12/21/02
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/29467.html
The Star Tribune's Greg Gordon reported last week that at a quiet little
ceremony earlier this month, Marion (Spike) Bowman was one of nine people
in the bureau to receive an award for "exceptional performance." The
award
carries with it a cash bonus of 20 to 35 percent of the recipient's
salary
and a framed certificate signed by the president. What does this have to
do
with Rowley? Bowman heads the FBI's National Security Law Unit. That's
the
unit that blocked Minneapolis agents from pursuing their suspicions about
Moussaoui. Bowman received the big pats on the back (and cash) a few days
before the House and Senate Intelligence committees turned in their
reports
of pre-Sept. 11 intelligence failures.

From an article by AP on 6/2/05 titled "Moussaoui Is Symbol of Missed
Clues"
....public interest in Moussaoui, who wants to fire his court-appointed
lawyers and represent himself, only grew after the FBI counsel in the
bureau's Minnesota field office wrote a scathing May 21 letter alleging
that headquarters officials thwarted local efforts to search Moussaoui's
computer in the weeks before the terrorist attacks.

``The Minneapolis agents who responded to the call about Moussaoui's
flight
training identified him as a terrorist threat from a very early point,''
Coleen Rowley wrote FBI Director Robert Mueller.

Mueller, in announcing a major FBI reorganization, acknowledged last week
that agents could have been on the trail of the hijackers if they had
pieced together several clues: Moussaoui's desire to learn to fly big
jets,
and at least two other memos about Middle Easterners taking flight
training.

From a Reuters article on 4/21/05 by James Vicini
He said the purpose of his plot was to free the blind Sheikh Omar Abdel-
Rahman, who is in prison in the United States after being found guilty of
terrorism charges which predated Sept. 11.

But Mr. MacMahon attacked the government's argument that had Mr.
Moussaoui
spoken truthfully of what he knew when he was arrested it would have
prevented the attacks. He cited the official commission that investigated
the attacks and found the government had several indications of Al
Qaeda's
plans before that day. The report found that the authorities never fully
appreciated the significance of some of the leads.

From a Reuters article on 3/7/06 by Niel Lewis
Mr. Moussaoui's actual role in the Sept. 11 attacks has remained an
intriguing mystery to investigators. The official commission that studied
the attacks concluded that Qaeda leaders might have considered using him
as
"a potential substitute pilot" on Sept. 11 because of friction among
other
participants, but that his arrest scuttled that possibility. The
commission
also speculated that he might have been meant to be part of a second wave
of attacks and noted that Al Qaeda spent some $50,000 on his training.

From a Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, April 23, 2005; Page A11
"If we thought by the end of the day we would find the holy grail as to
exactly what the genesis of 9/11 was and what Moussaoui's role in it was,
we have been sorely disappointed," said Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert
who heads the Washington office of the Rand Corp. "This contradiction in
his behavior raises more questions than it answers. The book still isn't
closed on 9/11, I'm afraid."

From Time Magazine, May 21, 2002, the 13 page memo
The e-mail communications between Minneapolis and FBIHQ, however, speak
for
themselves and there are far better witnesses than me who can provide
their
first hand knowledge of these events characterized in one Minneapolis
agent's e-mail as FBIHQ is "setting this up for failure."

US knew about al Qaeda in 1990s, FBI agent says, By Deborah Charles Tue
Mar
7, Reuters
FBI agent Michael Anticev said in testimony at a sentencing trial for
September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui that the U.S. government knew
by the mid 1990s that there were several al Qaeda training camps in
Afghanistan and other countries.

From Lori Van Auken testimony at the July 22nd Congressional Briefing:
The
9/11 Commission Report One Year Later ? A Citizens? Response ? Did They
Get
It Right?
http://www.gnn.tv/blogs/11995/Lorie_..._22nd_2005?r=5
FBI supervisor David Frasca and his underling, Michael Maltbie failed to
permit FBI agents to request a FISA warrant for Moussaoui but also
altered
the agent?s initial request for it. Specifically, on August 28th, 2001,
Maltbie edited the Minnesota FBI?s request for a FISA warrant to search
Zacarias Moussaoui?s possessions. The Minnesota FBI?s field office wanted
to prove that Moussaoui was connected to Al Qaeda through a rebel group
in
Chechnya. But the RFU agent Maltbie removed the information connecting
the
Chechen rebels to Al Qaeda.

Subsequently, the FBI General Counsel who received the edited request,
scrubbed clean of any international terrorist ties, decided that there
wasn?t enough of a connection between Moussaoui and Al Qaeda to allow for
an application for a search warrant through FISA.

....In essence, the Moussaoui case was actual confirmation of the Phoenix
Memo?s prediction. And it was these same men, Frasca and Maltbie, who not
only thrwarted the efforts of FBI agents to get a FISA warrant to search
Moussaoui?s belongings, including his laptop, that had information
leading
to other 9/11 hijackers, but it was also Frasca and Maltbie who tampered
with the papers requesting a FISA warrant.

....how could the Commission fail to mention that is was these two men,
David Frasca and Michael Maltbie, at the FBI?s Radical Fundamentalist
Unit,
who received the Phoenix Memo and then thwarted attempts to acquire a
FISA
warrant for Moussauoui?s computer?

How could the Commission remain silent on this matter when these men,
Frasca and Maltbie, have since been promoted within the FBI?

From Accuracy in Media:Will Rowley's Wake-Up Call Produce a Shake Up?
Aug.
2, 2002
http://www.aim.org/aim_report/A459_0_4_0_C/
Coleen Rowley asserted that by August 17, the Minneapolis FBI field
office
had concluded that Moussaoui represented a "terrorist threat." She said
his
arrest by the Immigration and Naturalization Service on August 15 was
hardly a coincidence. She implied that it was done at the FBI's request
to
prevent Moussaoui from fleeing or committing terrorist acts. She said
that
French intelligence had confirmed that Moussaoui was affiliated with
radical fundamentalist Islamist groups and activities connected to Osama
bin Laden.

From

FISA OVERSIGHT: A CASE STUDY OF THE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS PLAGUING THE FBI
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&dbname=cp108
&sid=cp1084y7aI&refer=&r_n=sr040.108&item=&sel=TOC _74689 &
In her letter, SA Rowley detailed the problems the Minneapolis agents had
in dealing with FBI Headquarters in their unsuccessful attempts to seek a
FISA warrant for the search of Moussaoui's lap top computer and other
personal belongings. These attempts proved fruitless, and Moussaoui's
computer and personal belongings were not searched until September 11th,
2001, when the Minneapolis agents were able to obtain a criminal search
warrant after the attacks of that date. According to SA Rowley, with the
exception of the fact of those attacks, the information presented in the
warrant application establishing probable cause for the criminal search
warrant was exactly the same as the facts that FBI Headquarters earlier
had
deemed inadequate to obtain a FISA search warrant.



Agent: FBI Rewrote Moussaoui Request
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/LUM205A.html

Officials familiar with Rowley's memo, speaking on condition of
anonymity,
said she alleged FBI headquarters terrorism supervisors rewrote the
Minnesota office's warrant applications and affidavit and removed
intelligence about Moussaoui before sending them to a legal office that
then rejected them as insufficient.

She alleged that some of the revisions "downplayed" the significance of
some intelligence linking Moussaoui to Islamic extremists, and blamed the
changes on a flawed communication process.


Les Jamieson
Northeast Program Coordinator
911truth.org

Be part of Citizens Counter-Coup, The Formula For Change Now
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Wake Up! wrote:

MSNBC / NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE:

full article: http://tinyurl.com/5q282


EXCERPT:

Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases.
The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI


Did you NOT previously state there were no hijackers?


Sept. 15 — U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that
suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in
Tuesday’s terror attacks received training at SECURE U.S. MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS in the 1990s.



Now, back to this "fact"

http://www.911myths.com/html/trained.html

The issue is that there were people with similar names, but the
birthdates don't match. One was 20 years off. The US military has
trained quite a few people with Arab names.

You previously stated there were no hijackings and no plane crashed into
the Pentagon. Now you are stating the hijackers were US trained
Now, can you tell me why, after going through flight training at NAS
Pensacola, they would need to go to a private flight school? You also
stated that they weren't even good students at the private school and
couldn't have flow the planes into the WTC and Pentagon.
Now, are you changing your story?

"mrtravel" wrote in message
et...
Wake Up! wrote:

MSNBC / NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE:

full article: http://tinyurl.com/5q282


EXCERPT:

Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases.
The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI


Did you NOT previously state there were no hijackers?


Sept. 15 — U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that
suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in
Tuesday’s terror attacks received training at SECURE U.S. MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS in the 1990s.



Now, back to this "fact"

http://www.911myths.com/html/trained.html

The issue is that there were people with similar names, but the
birthdates don't match. One was 20 years off. The US military has
trained quite a few people with Arab names.

You previously stated there were no hijackings and no plane crashed into
the Pentagon. Now you are stating the hijackers were US trained
Now, can you tell me why, after going through flight training at NAS
Pensacola, they would need to go to a private flight school? You also
stated that they weren't even good students at the private school and
couldn't have flow the planes into the WTC and Pentagon.

LOL.

Now, are you changing your story?

Again? Again? Again??? LOL.

Paul Nixon

khobar wrote:
"mrtravel" wrote in message
et...
Wake Up! wrote:

MSNBC / NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE:

full article: http://tinyurl.com/5q282


EXCERPT:

Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases.
The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI


Did you NOT previously state there were no hijackers?


Sept. 15 - U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that
suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in
Tuesday's terror attacks received training at SECURE U.S. MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS in the 1990s.



Now, back to this "fact"

http://www.911myths.com/html/trained.html

The issue is that there were people with similar names, but the
birthdates don't match. One was 20 years off. The US military has
trained quite a few people with Arab names.

You previously stated there were no hijackings and no plane crashed into
the Pentagon. Now you are stating the hijackers were US trained
Now, can you tell me why, after going through flight training at NAS
Pensacola, they would need to go to a private flight school? You also
stated that they weren't even good students at the private school and
couldn't have flow the planes into the WTC and Pentagon.

LOL.

Now, are you changing your story?

Again? Again? Again??? LOL.

Some-one wants consistancy from a kook.
Never happen....
ROTFL

mrtravel wrote in news:bAaRf.46947$F_3.6444
@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:

Wake Up! wrote:

MSNBC / NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE:

full article: http://tinyurl.com/5q282


EXCERPT:

Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases.
The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI


Did you NOT previously state there were no hijackers?


Sept. 15 — U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that
suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in
Tuesday’s terror attacks received training at SECURE U.S. MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS in the 1990s.



Now, back to this "fact"

http://www.911myths.com/html/trained.html

The issue is that there were people with similar names, but the
birthdates don't match. One was 20 years off. The US military has
trained quite a few people with Arab names.

You previously stated there were no hijackings and no plane crashed
into
the Pentagon. Now you are stating the hijackers were US trained
Now, can you tell me why, after going through flight training at NAS
Pensacola, they would need to go to a private flight school? You also
stated that they weren't even good students at the private school and
couldn't have flow the planes into the WTC and Pentagon.
Now, are you changing your story?




The word hijackers is in quotes. That should answer your question

Wake Up! wrote:

The word hijackers is in quotes. That should answer your question

So, let's put an anglo slant on this.

Say a British guy with the name Paul Jones, DOB 7/27/80 was one of the
"hijackers" of 9/11

Now, let say the military has records showing that Paul Joans, DOB
4/12/65 had received training at NAS Pensacola in the summer of 1993.

Would you think was the same "hijacker"?

Maybe you want to go back and actually READ that article, because this
is what the military response indicated. The names were similar and the
birthdates were wrong. One was wrong by 20 years.

In addition, you previously stated the "hijackers" did not know how to
fly. Now you are claiming they were trained at Naval Air Station
Pensacola. Did they also do carrier landings from Beeville, TX?
Do you know the meaning of Fox Corpen?
What's is COD?
What's a RIO?

Can you identify the following aircraft by nickname?

Intruder
Tomcat
Firefox
Zero
Foxbat
Phantom

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:34:32 GMT, mrtravel wrote:

Can you identify the following aircraft by nickname?

Intruder
Tomcat
Firefox
Zero
Foxbat
Phantom

One of these things is not like the others. grin

One of them is as imaginary as truth's wacky conspiracy theories.

Johnny Bravo wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:34:32 GMT, mrtravel wrote:


Can you identify the following aircraft by nickname?

Intruder
Tomcat
Firefox
Zero
Foxbat
Phantom


One of these things is not like the others. grin

One of them is as imaginary as truth's wacky conspiracy theories.


Yeah, even Clint Eastwood would know the fake.

Intruder A-6
Tomcat F-14
Phantom F-4
Foxbat MIG-25
Firefox MIG-31 (Fake, not to be confused with the real MIG-31 Foxhound,
they are not alike)
Zero Mitsubushi A6M

Fox Corpen - Flight Course - Course needed to give required headwind (30
knots, as I recall) to launch aircraft. If they had trained for deck
landings before Nov 1991, they would have used USS Lexington - CV 16. I
don't know about '91, but in 1981 it was computed by hand using a
manuevering board. I only spent 2 weeks onboard while my own ship was
stuck in port all summer as the reservists gone to South America. My
ship, DD-827 was a reserve destroyer (also ported in P'Cola) that was
sold to Turkey and sailed up to Newport RI for the transfer early in
1982. By March 1982 I was on a new FFG headed for Gilbraltar. We then
left on a missle exercise with the British. Due to the events of that
time, the exercise was cut short as the Brits had somewhere else to go.

Alleged Hijackers May Have Trained at U.S. Bases.
The Pentagon has turned over military records on five men to the FBI


Sept. 15 - U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that
suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in
Tuesday's terror attacks received training at SECURE U.S. MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS in the 1990s.

Laughable. And by now well discredited by legitimate news sources.
One has to wonder why Newsweek would harm their reputation - already in
a sprial into the toilet - by the simple failure of reviewing the whole
range of information regarding this claim.