The wrong signals to send to young visitors.

Why can't an adult just say: "Those are 'beeer' logos on that wing, son -
adults drink it sometimes."



"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Legislators Protest Beer Logos on Museum Exhibit

By Jacqueline Trescott
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 19, 2003; Page C01


Just weeks before the opening of the Smithsonian's new aviation
museum, 20 House members have asked the Smithsonian to remove beer
logos from a historic aerobatics plane.

In a letter sent this week to Smithsonian Secretary Lawrence M. Small,
the congressmen said the Loudenslager Stephens Akro Laser 200, which
won several U.S. aerobatics titles as well as the 1980 World Aerobatic
Championship, deserved to be in the museum. However, they said the Bud
Light emblems were an advertisement and an inducement to drink -- the
wrong signals to send to young visitors.

"The display of the plane with the Bud Light logos would needlessly
commercialize the plane's exhibition while marginalizing its true
historical significance. The logos are nothing more than an
advertisement that would constitute an implicit endorsement of Bud
Light by the Smithsonian Institution," wrote the members of Congress.

"Having a historic plane covered in gratuitous beer advertising sends
misleading and dangerous messages to the millions of annual museum
visitors who will be under the legal drinking age. As you may know,
alcohol is the leading drug problem among American youth. . . .

Wrong Larry.
Those logos are authentic and accurate historical markings. If your kid cant
handle the concept, keep him the hell out of the museum.


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:06:12 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote in Message-Id: :

In a previous article, Larry Dighera said:
"Having a historic plane covered in gratuitous beer advertising sends
misleading and dangerous messages to the millions of annual museum

So, do all those World War II German planes with swastikas on them tell
kids that Nazism is cool?

History is appropriate for a museum; marketing messages are not.


--

The true Axis Of Evil in America is our genious at marketing
coupled with the stupidity of our people. -- Bill Maher

"g n p" wrote in message
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You Americans are a gas......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




It's 'cause our gas is sooooo much cheaper than yours! ;-)
--
Jim in NC

In a previous article, "g n p" said:
You Americans are a gas......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And after you drink a Bud Lite, you'll know why they're full of gas.
Over-carbonated, under-flavoured freezing cold **** water.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
I tried staying in during a fire alarm some years ago. Unfortunately the
fire warden wouldn't accept 'A real hacker goes down with his newsfeed'
as an excuse. -- Peter Gutman

Who cares about a bunch of freakin Germans. They were cold-blooded murderers
in WWII - fully documented. They made the swastika illegal to display AFTER
we kicked them to hell. It would only be a meaningful gesture if they had
made the swastika illegal back in 1937. Once hitler committed suicide and
the US and Russia owned germany, it didnt matter if the swastikas were
illegal to display or not since it was the symbol of a cowardly and toppled
organization. They should still use it as the symbol on their flag to remind
them of what *******s they were.



"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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In a previous article, Cub Driver said:
And I wonder: how do German air museums handle this little problem of
the swastika or hakenkruez? Nazi symbols carry more baggage in that
country than they do in the U.S. For example, the Bodenweiler(?) March
is banned in Germany but not in the U.S.

German air museums paint out the swastika because it's illegal to display
it in public. Or at least they did before reunification - I'm not sure if
it's changed.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction
into a
battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day."
- Calvin discovers Usenet

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:23:44 -0500, Cub Driver
wrote:

And I wonder: how do German air museums handle this little problem of
the swastika or hakenkruez? Nazi symbols carry more baggage in that
country than they do in the U.S. For example, the Bodenweiler(?) March
is banned in Germany but not in the U.S.

In the Airship museum at Friedrichshafen, where Graf von Zeppelin
tested his airships, they just blot out the Nazi markings whereever
they're found.

Rob

--
[You] don't make your kids P.C.-proof by keeping them
ignorant, you do it by helping them learn how to
educate themselves.

-- Orson Scott Card

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Legislators Protest Beer Logos on Museum Exhibit

By Jacqueline Trescott
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 19, 2003; Page C01


Just weeks before the opening of the Smithsonian's new aviation
museum, 20 House members have asked the Smithsonian to remove beer
logos from a historic aerobatics plane.


Are these the same yahoos who, in an insanely patriotic (or just insane)
moment, changed the names of French Fries to Freedom Fries?

Earl G

When we did the engine instrumentation warning circuits for Voyager, we
nicknamed it "Voyager Instrumentation Official Little Engine Thingey". (Read
"VIOLET"). When the red light came on and the fit hit the shan, That was OUR
light.


We put VIOLET on the instrument. It is VIOLET in the Smithsonian and in the
mockup at EAA.


HOWEVER...

Dick asked us to do a tank timer based on a West Bend kitchen egg timer. We did
that and called it Tank Interval Timer To Insure Engine Success (TITTIES)

The Smithsonian has our original TITTIES timer hanging with the airplane.

The EAA's mockup didn't have the cojnones to put "titties";' they blurred the
word on the display.

Talk about no guts at all...

Jim


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Larry Dighera writes:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Nov18.html


Legislators Protest Beer Logos on Museum Exhibit

By Jacqueline Trescott
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 19, 2003; Page C01


Just weeks before the opening of the Smithsonian's new aviation
museum, 20 House members have asked the Smithsonian to remove beer
logos from a historic aerobatics plane.

In a letter sent this week to Smithsonian Secretary Lawrence M. Small,
the congressmen said the Loudenslager Stephens Akro Laser 200, which
won several U.S. aerobatics titles as well as the 1980 World Aerobatic
Championship, deserved to be in the museum. However, they said the Bud
Light emblems were an advertisement and an inducement to drink -- the
wrong signals to send to young visitors.

"The display of the plane with the Bud Light logos would needlessly
commercialize the plane's exhibition while marginalizing its true
historical significance. The logos are nothing more than an
advertisement that would constitute an implicit endorsement of Bud
Light by the Smithsonian Institution," wrote the members of Congress.

"Having a historic plane covered in gratuitous beer advertising sends
misleading and dangerous messages to the millions of annual museum
visitors who will be under the legal drinking age. As you may know,
alcohol is the leading drug problem among American youth. . . .

This is a joke, right?

You are joking, right? You made that clipping up, right?

Right? Yeah, this is a joke. I know it. It must be. It can't not be.

-jav

In article , Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, "g n p" said:
You Americans are a gas......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And after you drink a Bud Lite, you'll know why they're full of gas.
Over-carbonated, under-flavoured freezing cold **** water.

We don't even call it "beer" here, it comes under the term "lager"
which is thought of as a completely different kind of beverage to beer.

A Bushy's advertisment in one of their pubs sums it up:

What you worried about, lager boy?
Frightened you'll taste something?

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"