Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

Duncan writes:

AFAIK no-one has ever towed a C-172 to 45K' ...

So nobody really knows.

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Mxsmanic,

The distinction can be important in flying.


How would you know?

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Sam Spade wrote:
Buck Murdock wrote:


Yes. Which is why a full-motion simulator is not available for $69 at
CompUSA.

Damn!

I can just imagine that Geek Squad installation visit. G

In article ,
B A R R Y wrote:

Yes. Which is why a full-motion simulator is not available for $69 at
CompUSA.

Damn!

I can just imagine that Geek Squad installation visit. G

"Well... I really think you should get the 3-year service plan on this,
'cuz we see a lot of service calls on these. Let's see.... $12
million.... .... yeah, it'd be just $3.5 million for 3 years of full
coverage. Can I sign you up now?"

grin

Buck Murdock wrote:
In article ,
B A R R Y wrote:


Yes. Which is why a full-motion simulator is not available for $69 at
CompUSA.

Damn!

I can just imagine that Geek Squad installation visit. G


"Well... I really think you should get the 3-year service plan on this,
'cuz we see a lot of service calls on these. Let's see.... $12
million.... .... yeah, it'd be just $3.5 million for 3 years of full
coverage. Can I sign you up now?"

grin

In addition to the $3.5 mil service contract the owner is required to
provide a break room and rest facilities for the full time geeks.

mad8 wrote:
Paul kgyy wrote:
If you want a better feel for what actually goes on than you will ever
get via newsgroup, take a couple of United flights and listen to the
ATC channel - it can be much more entertaining than the movie at times.

i love that "channel". It's really fun being able to say to the person
you're flying with "i can predict the future. Check it out, we're gonna
turn left in about 3 seconds"

Coming into LAX a while back, I was listening on that channel. We
were cruising along nicely when I hear ATC urgently call out something
like "United 123, traffic twelve o'clock, descend immediately to eight
thousand, please expedite!" I turned to my companion and said "hold
on". A second later, we all went weightless as the plane took an
unusually sharp dive.

After we leveled off again, the captain came on the speaker and said,
"Well folks, as you can tell, we've just been given permission to
descend towards the airport."

Kev

wrote:

Coming into LAX a while back, I was listening on that channel. We
were cruising along nicely when I hear ATC urgently call out something
like "United 123, traffic twelve o'clock, descend immediately to
eight thousand, please expedite!" I turned to my companion and said
"hold on". A second later, we all went weightless as the plane took
an unusually sharp dive.

After we leveled off again, the captain came on the speaker and said,
"Well folks, as you can tell, we've just been given permission to
descend towards the airport."


I had a similar experience on a United flight into Little Rock AR a few
years ago. I was listening to the channel while we were on final and the
tower calls "United 456, GO AROUND GO AROUND, Aircraft on the runway."
Before the second "Go Around" had been called the engines got real loud. The
tower then told the Baron to clear the active, contact ground and call the
tower at XXX-XXXX when able.

We were own very short final. And I have no doubt the pilot saw the runway
incurrtion at the same time the tower did.

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
:

I had a similar experience on a United flight into Little Rock AR a
few years ago. I was listening to the channel while we were on final
and the tower calls "United 456, GO AROUND GO AROUND, Aircraft on the
runway." Before the second "Go Around" had been called the engines got
real loud. The tower then told the Baron to clear the active, contact
ground and call the tower at XXX-XXXX when able.

We were own very short final. And I have no doubt the pilot saw the
runway incurrtion at the same time the tower did.

Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet. I would have
thought that all audio and movie channels would be turned off by the
captain, especially short final?

Allen

"A Lieberma" wrote in message
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
:

I had a similar experience on a United flight into Little Rock AR a
few years ago. I was listening to the channel while we were on final
and the tower calls "United 456, GO AROUND GO AROUND, Aircraft on the
runway." Before the second "Go Around" had been called the engines got
real loud. The tower then told the Baron to clear the active, contact
ground and call the tower at XXX-XXXX when able.

We were own very short final. And I have no doubt the pilot saw the
runway incurrtion at the same time the tower did.

Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet. I would have
thought that all audio and movie channels would be turned off by the
captain, especially short final?

Allen

United's Channel 9 (when the captain allows) is usually available from
battery on to shutdown. I've listened to the ATIS, clearance, push, taxi,
takeoff, etc with the only interuptions being the safety briefing and what's
for lunch.

Jay B

A Lieberma writes:

Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet.

There's nothing to stow for on-board entertainment. And the most
interesting part of listening to ATC would be during take-off and
landing.

I would have
thought that all audio and movie channels would be turned off by the
captain, especially short final?

Why?

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