Western Seniors

We are trying to organize a Western Seniors for 2009. To
possible be held @ Warner Springs, Ca. from Sept. 9 thur Sept. 13 or
14. We had a western senior event years ago, but the
interest ...errrr... fell off. So, it would be the same format as the
Seniors in Seminole, being 55 and older along with guests.

This time of year theirs really great soaring available and all
would have a good and enjoyable time.

If theirs enough interest, its possible, so email me @
or showing your interest.
Its also post on my blog....http://711reporting.blogspot.com/
Thanks
everybody,

Thermal tight, Soar high, Fly safe....# 711.

On Sep 17, 6:34*pm, wrote:
* * * *We are trying to organize a Western Seniors for 2009. To
possible be held @ Warner Springs, Ca. *from Sept. 9 thur Sept. 13 or
14. We had a western senior event years ago, but the
interest ...errrr... fell off. *So, it would be the same format as the
Seniors in Seminole, being 55 and older along with guests.

* * *This time of year theirs really great soaring available and all
would have a good and enjoyable time.

* * *If theirs enough interest, its possible, *so email me @
or showing your interest.
* * *Its also post on my blog....http://711reporting.blogspot.com/
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Thanks
everybody,

*Thermal tight, Soar high, Fly safe....# 711.

Great idea there, Tom Tom. We had a couple of Western Seniors at
Estrella in the past and they were well attended. Count me in.
JJ

On Sep 18, 6:50�am, JJ Sinclair wrote:
On Sep 17, 6:34�pm, wrote:





� � � �We are trying to organize a Western Seniors for 2009. To
possible be held @ Warner Springs, Ca. �from Sept. 9 thur Sept. 13 or
14. We had a western senior event years ago, but the
interest ...errrr... fell off. �So, it would be the same format as the
Seniors in Seminole, being 55 and older along with guests.

� � �This time of year theirs really great soaring available and all
would have a good and enjoyable time.

� � �If theirs enough interest, its possible, �so email me @
or showing your interest.
� � �Its also post on my blog....http://711reporting.blogspot.com/
� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � Thanks
everybody,

�Thermal tight, Soar high, Fly safe....# 711.

Great idea there, Tom Tom. We had a couple of Western Seniors at
Estrella in the past and they were well attended. Count me in.
JJ- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks JJ. Pass the word around, maybe Ray Gimmey and some of
the others you know. I think having it at the end of the soaring
season will be good as everyone can reflect back on their adventures
of the past season.
Also, we have one evening which we plan on taking limo's down to
a sport coat event and dinner party at a winery. Now, that could be a
good bang for your buck.
Spread the word as we are thinking around 25 max or so.
Best regards, # 711.

Just thinking out loud, but what does making it "senior" get you other
than excluding the interesting new guys in this contest? I don't know
of many hot west coast under 55 pilots who are going to burn up the
skies on long tiring 6 hour flights and leave you old guys in the
dust. Well, I gues P7 isn't 55 yet; just give him a personal handicap!

Why not run a super-regional instead? Same concept, more gliders, more
pilots, encourage young new people.

John Cochrane
BB

On Sep 18, 9:35�am, BB wrote:
Just thinking out loud, but what does making it "senior" get you other
than excluding the interesting new guys in this contest? I don't know
of many hot west coast under 55 pilots who are going to burn up the
skies on long tiring 6 hour flights and leave you old guys in the
dust. Well, I gues P7 isn't 55 yet; just give him a personal handicap!

Why not run a super-regional instead? Same concept, more gliders, more
pilots, encourage young new people.

John Cochrane
BB

The Region 12 was held at Warner Springs this year. Have you
looked at the SSA website at the turnout? I believe they plan on
hosting another Region 12 at Warners during the Spring of 2009.
Maybe, BB, you should host a Super Regionals anytime, anywhere,
anyplace you want this next year or any year. John, why don't you host
a Super Regionals in Parowan during Sept. of 2009? I will come and I
am sure, many others will. Parowan, in early Sept. can be really great
with long cloud streets, high bases,10 plus kt. lift. Great idea and I
am thankful your coming forward to do it.
BB, you aren't suggesting that "The Seniors" event in Florida be
ended in favor of your super regional idea? Naw, your not suggesting
that....my bad...sorry.
We had a Western Seniors before and we are just trying to see if
theirs interest to bring it back. That's all. A fun, end of season
contest, which will have guest's included. BUT we can work around
your contest dates for your super regionals in Parowan during Sept.
2009. Just let us know the dates. Thanks, John, and yes, we old guys,
never in fear, still enjoy kicking butts on younger, hot shots.
Errrr...how did that last day in Uvalde go, BB, anyway, I forget????

All in fun, love ya BB, ka smooch....... # 711.

On Sep 18, 10:32�am, wrote:
On Sep 18, 9:35 am, BB wrote:

Just thinking out loud, but what does making it "senior" get you other
than excluding the interesting new guys in this contest? I don't know
of many hot west coast under 55 pilots who are going to burn up the
skies on long tiring 6 hour flights and leave you old guys in the
dust. Well, I gues P7 isn't 55 yet; just give him a personal handicap!

Why not run a super-regional instead? Same concept, more gliders, more
pilots, encourage young new people.

John Cochrane
BB

� � � The Region 12 was held at Warner Springs this year. Have you
looked at the SSA website at the turnout? �I believe they plan on
hosting another Region 12 at Warners during the Spring of �2009.
� � � Maybe, BB, you should host a Super Regionals anytime, anywhere,
anyplace you want this next year or any year. John, why don't you host
a Super Regionals in Parowan during Sept. of 2009? �I will come and I
am sure, many others will. Parowan, in early Sept. can be really great
with long cloud streets, high bases,10 plus kt. lift. Great idea and I
am thankful your coming forward to do it.
� � � BB, you aren't suggesting that "The Seniors" event in Florida be
ended in favor of your super regional idea? �Naw, your not suggesting
that....my bad...sorry.
� � �We had a Western Seniors before and we are just trying to see if
theirs interest to bring it back. That's all. A fun, end of season
contest, which will have guest's included. �BUT we can work around
your contest dates for your super regionals in Parowan during Sept.
2009. Just let us know the dates. Thanks, John, and yes, �we old guys,
never in fear, still enjoy kicking �butts on younger, hot shots.
Errrr...how did that last day in Uvalde go, BB, anyway, I forget????

� � All in fun, love ya BB, ka smooch....... # 711.

DATES WILL CHANGE SO NO CONFLICT WITH the..... "Dust Devil
Dash"...............moved back one week..........Starting maybe the
15th of Sept 09...

We thought about a super regional.....but our own Region 12 does not
fill up, so there is no reason to do that. Warner Springs is a GREAT
site for beginning XC and racing, so I do not need to make preference
to higher ranked pilots. To my understanding a Regional is designed to
prepare pilots for nationals, maybe even that year so pilots can
adjust to new rules changes.

1.0 ‡ † PURPOSE
The purpose of a Regional Soaring Championships is to determine a
Regional Champion and to measure the
performance of all entrants within each class. Performance in
Regionals will be used to provide a basis for
pilots to qualify for entry into future soaring Championships.

So that is the reason for our madness of having an early spring
contest (Region 12)...oh yea and the weather is decent. I could have
our Region 12 contest in September instead, when the thermals are
better and it is hot outside (but no chance of wave as in
April..)...but that would not in my mind fit into item 1.0 above. So
the regional stays...it is wayyyyy under subscribed so you can come
from out of region with NO fear of being placed on a waiting list.
Even with custom hand crafted beer.

September.... Western Seniors...The seniors in FL are early in the
season...like the first kick-off of the soaring season....for those
that have a 6month season and cannot fly year round...for those that
think the soaring season ends after August...well then we have have an
end of the soaring season Senior contest. I am not trying to fill up
with 65pilot (then I would think of a super-regional or National)....I
do not want that many ego's running around the airport. I like the
idea of limiting to 35....but hope for 15, the airport gets very busy
when too many pilots want to take off in a short time, we have the
room, but we like the operation small and not too hindering on Sky
Sailing (I still have to flight instruct after the launch while
everyone goes on task, then be ready when everyone lands...more
gliders makes that harder), we like the small BBQ's, the relaxed shade
trees, and not more than 30gallons of beer (it gets hard to keep that
much beer cold)...So if you are not over 55 then you can come and fly
as a guest...we would love to have you here....just like in FL. We
like the idea of having a crew rest day (not decided if we will have
one yet..)....but they are not thought of as highly at a super-
regional.... but it would be a fun time going wine tasting with your
friends...

This was semi-thought out...now will anyone come?....if you organize
it they will come...We figured we would ask and see if anyone would.

As far as encouraging newbies..I flight instruct 7 days a week...they
can still fly our Region 12 contest, or come to the western seniors
and fly as a guest...even better come out next month, I don't even
have min experience requirements...THAT is the way to get your
badges...see the rules......fly to the rules...have lectures...I
posted something on that...October 10, 11, 12..http://
fallclassic.deltavictor8.com/...you should see my inbox with the flood
of emails.

I am still working on sanctioning forms, not even sure if it will get
through...but we want to see if there is even any interest.