Taking the pledge

"Jose" wrote

All we have to do is not engage in flame wars. It's quite simple.

Would you go along with it, if it looks like the majority of the group
wishes it?
--
Jim in NC

Take a few deep breaths, and realize you have only two legitimate
choices on Usenet: whether to read an article or not, and whether to
post an article or not. That's it. Nothing more.

Well put, Larry. For once, we are in total agreement.

I don't want to be part of any active measures against any particular
poster. All I have suggested is that I shall not respond to The Troll
anymore -- and if we all take that "Pledge", things might settle down
around here.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I think that more practical suggestions have already been made. For
example, one recent suggestion was to answer legitimate questions and
correct inaccurate information regardless of the originator, and avoid
arguing with those that just want to disrupt. Much easier, more civil,
covers more than just mx's posts and keeps the traffic on topic.

I am personally in favor of your suggestion, Neil, but I am apparently
in the minority.

Therefore, before we lose any more quality members, I am suggesting
taking "The Pledge" simply as a way of maintaining some group
cohesion.

I tried answering MX's legitimate questions, and watched in horror as
the group descended into flames. I think it's better, at this point,
to simply ignore his threads, and see where this goes.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

At this point after everything thats gone, I will also take the pledge and I
already put the character in a kill file that is working very well so far in
4 Usenet groups.

So;

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...

Ayeeeeeee

Not4wood




"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think that more practical suggestions have already been made. For
example, one recent suggestion was to answer legitimate questions and
correct inaccurate information regardless of the originator, and avoid
arguing with those that just want to disrupt. Much easier, more civil,
covers more than just mx's posts and keeps the traffic on topic.

I am personally in favor of your suggestion, Neil, but I am apparently
in the minority.

Therefore, before we lose any more quality members, I am suggesting
taking "The Pledge" simply as a way of maintaining some group
cohesion.

I tried answering MX's legitimate questions, and watched in horror as
the group descended into flames. I think it's better, at this point,
to simply ignore his threads, and see where this goes.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

At this time I would like to ask you if you could post this in the other
Aviation Newsgroups as well including the Flight Sim Newsgroup.

They are having a hard time from the same character as well.

Thank you in advance.

Mark G
Not4wood


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Okay, folks, enough is enough. We've got good, long-term, high
quality pilots seriously discussing vandalizing someone's website,
because of said someone's troll-dom.

In the past, I have defended said troll, and lambasted said vandals,
but have now come to realize that this troll is obviously so divisive
and upsetting to some that this issue risks tearing apart the very
fabric of rec.aviation.

I personally find this amazing (he truly doesn't bother me that much)
but, in the interest of keeping this newsgroup intact and (relatively)
harmonious, I hereby publically make the following pledges, and urge
others to join me he

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:33:37 -0600, "Neil Gould"
wrote in
:

I think that more practical suggestions have already been made. For
example, one recent suggestion was to answer legitimate questions and
correct inaccurate information regardless of the originator, and avoid
arguing with those that just want to disrupt. Much easier, more civil,
covers more than just mx's posts and keeps the traffic on topic.

Thank you for that enlightened voice of reason. It is truly a breath
of fresh air in a sea of yammering, emotional, fools.

On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:37:41 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote in
:


Defaulters are sentenced to 30 days in alt.disasters.aviation.


Cruel and unusual. :-)

On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:41:44 GMT, Jose
wrote in :


All we have to do is not engage in flame wars. It's quite simple.

It's only simple for non-creations. :-)

Jay Honeck wrote:
Okay, folks, enough is enough. We've got good, long-term, high
quality pilots seriously discussing vandalizing someone's website,
because of said someone's troll-dom.
... I hereby publically make the following pledges, and urge
others to join me he

1. I will not respond to MX's posts.
2. I will not lambaste MX on these newsgroups.
3. I will not vandalize MX's website.

All in favor, say "aye"...

Your heart is in the right place. But engaging in "loyalty oaths" of
sorts sends a chill up my spine. Among the great things I find in the
aviation community is the strong personal liberty/libertarian bent of
the participants. This speaks to a strong cultural identity of US
citizens in particular but I'm sure other net denizens as well.

The USENET is a strong pure form of democracy and open discourse. It has
been this way for the 20+ years I've been reading, involved with and
enjoying it. People should behave a certain way because it is the
appropriate way to behave not because they have sworn allegiance to a
group. This includes posters and responders to posters.

It is the height of arrogance for me to suggest a certain way to behave
or look or dress or act or anything else. We have individual rights,
choices and responsibilities. I've made my choice on the person in
question's behavior. While it is frustrating to watch these train wrecks
in this and other forums, it is equally frustrating to walk down the
street and find some unfortunate person haranguing the sky or some
unseen enemy. Shake your head, walk on, but make a difference where you
can, when you can. But most of all pray for the wisdom to know the
difference.

Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too.
~Voltaire

Voltaire, ironically, a Frenchman. :-)

KC

On 4 Mar 2007 05:45:32 -0800, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in . com:


Take a few deep breaths, and realize you have only two legitimate
choices on Usenet: whether to read an article or not, and whether to
post an article or not. That's it. Nothing more.

Well put, Larry. For once, we are in total agreement.

That's because it's difficult to refute the truth.