C-130 on Navy Carrier

Okay, here's another one:

Big cargo plane comes in for approach, the back door opens up, an
arresting hook comes out. It is attached to a LAPES sled/pallet.
The hook grabs an arresting cable, the release force threshold is
reached. the cargo is pulled from the aircraft cargo bay and onto the
deck.

The arresting cable system slows down the load and keeps it from going
too far.

Jay

(JJ) wrote in news:4210d9d9.122177140
@news2.flex.com:

Okay, here's another one:

Big cargo plane comes in for approach, the back door opens up, an
arresting hook comes out. It is attached to a LAPES sled/pallet.
The hook grabs an arresting cable, the release force threshold is
reached. the cargo is pulled from the aircraft cargo bay and onto the
deck.

The arresting cable system slows down the load and keeps it from going
too far.

The success rate of manned jets catching arresting cables is far from
100%, and you are expecting, nay requiring, a 100% rate for an
uncontrolled unaerodynamic lump deposited on the flight deck at @ 130
knots. Bold dream, my friend.

Watch this video, all the way through becasue it isn't all LAPES, and
tell us once more how practical this is.

BTW, how old are you? I used to dream up stuff like this when I was in my
teens.

Dave in San Diego

Dave in San Diego wrote:

(JJ) wrote in
Big cargo plane comes in for approach, the back door opens up, an
arresting hook comes out. It is attached to a LAPES sled/pallet.
The hook grabs an arresting cable, the release force threshold is
reached. the cargo is pulled from the aircraft cargo bay and onto the
deck.
The arresting cable system slows down the load and keeps it from going
too far.

The success rate of manned jets catching arresting cables is far from
100%, and you are expecting, nay requiring, a 100% rate for an
uncontrolled unaerodynamic lump deposited on the flight deck at @ 130
knots. Bold dream, my friend.

Hunh? If the hook misses the arresting cables, the cargo plane keeps
going and comes back for another approach just like the regular
carrier jets. The cargo module doesn't leave the plane unless hook
catches a cable.

Watch this video, all the way through becasue it isn't all LAPES, and
tell us once more how practical this is.

I don't see any arresting cables or smooth steel decks in your
otherwise amusing video. I thank you for that.

Um Dave, while I did touch upon parachutes earlier in this thread, I
don't use them in this sub-thread. My mention of LAPES sled/pallet
refers only to the structure that the cargo is secured to and in turn
is secured to the aircraft load bay. That part has already been
invented and should be reused with some modifications.

BTW, how old are you? I used to dream up stuff like this when I was in my
teens.
Dave in San Diego

Well I am old enough to know that engineering evolution can go from
what seems to be a pretty zany brainstorm type idea to an effective
operational system.

Jay

(JJ) wrote in news:4210d9d9.122177140
@news2.flex.com:

Okay, here's another one:

Big cargo plane comes in for approach, the back door opens up, an
arresting hook comes out. It is attached to a LAPES sled/pallet.
The hook grabs an arresting cable, the release force threshold is
reached. the cargo is pulled from the aircraft cargo bay and onto the
deck.

The arresting cable system slows down the load and keeps it from going
too far.

The success rate of manned jets catching arresting cables is far from
100%, and you are expecting, nay requiring, a 100% rate for an
uncontrolled unaerodynamic lump deposited on the flight deck at @ 130
knots. Bold dream, my friend.

Watch this video, all the way through becasue it isn't all LAPES, and
tell us once more how practical this is.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...s/airdrops.wmv

BTW, how old are you? I used to dream up stuff like this when I was in my
teens.

Dave in San Diego

Yes..go he http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...ry/q0097.shtml





On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:47:49 -0800, "W. D. Allen Sr."
wrote:

Does anyone know anything about the C-130 that made arrested landings and
launches from a Navy aircraft carrier back in the 1960s?

WDA

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Lots of info on this event has been posted here, but it leaves me with a
smaal problem. I've gotten it into my head to build scale models of every
type of post WWII plane that flew of the decks of US carriers, and now it
turns out even the Herc qualifies for that. Can anyone help me with
information about the squadron markings on this particular aircraft? The
links in the various posts show pictures, but they're not very revealing
in this respect.

Thanks for any help

Rob

Rob van Riel wrote in
news
Lots of info on this event has been posted here, but it leaves me with a
smaal problem. I've gotten it into my head to build scale models of every
type of post WWII plane that flew of the decks of US carriers, and now it
turns out even the Herc qualifies for that. Can anyone help me with
information about the squadron markings on this particular aircraft? The
links in the various posts show pictures, but they're not very revealing
in this respect.

Thanks for any help

Rob


Make sure include the U-2 in that list..

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:50:14 +0000, John Szalay wrote:

Make sure include the U-2 in that list..

Will do, assuming I ever get around to digging out the markings for the
plane that pulled that stunt.

Rob

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:07:31 +0100, Rob van Riel wrote:

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:50:14 +0000, John Szalay wrote:

Make sure include the U-2 in that list..

Will do, assuming I ever get around to digging out the markings for the
plane that pulled that stunt.

This article might help with your research:
http://www.afa.org/magazine/feb2001/0201spyplane.asp

--

-Jeff B.
zoomie at fastmail dot fm

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:36:21 +0000, Yeff wrote:

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:07:31 +0100, Rob van Riel wrote:

Will do, assuming I ever get around to digging out the markings for the
plane that pulled that stunt.

This article might help with your research:
http://www.afa.org/magazine/feb2001/0201spyplane.asp

Interesting article.

Thanks

Rob