Bible-beater pilots

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Jay, Jay, Jay! Look at the hornet's nest you have stirred up!
Interesting post, and one that I can relate to, except it wasn't in a
casino by an airport, but at the front door of my own home! I guess I
got a Book of Mormon out of the whole deal (and not much more), so it
wasn't so bad! Of course, they were back for a follow up session a few
days later, and the chicken that I am, I got my roommate to tell them
that I wasn't there (and he told them that he was not interested)! Ah
well .....br
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Reading Scet's post below, I must saw that I thought differently too. I
had seen some of your conservative views (especially after 9/11), and
so was all the more surprised by your post. I guess  conservative, and
religious don't necessarily go in the same sentence! :-) What do you
know - you learn something new everyday!br
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-Sridharbr
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pre wrap=""!----To be perfectly honest with you Jay, most of my colleagues and myself
are/were under the impression that most Americans are very religious, you
know God bless America and all that stuff, where it is the opposite in
Australia. In saying that, it surprises me that you aren't. I am not
religious myself.

When I find myself in a situation such as yours Jay, I cannot help but to
"debate" if you like, the existance of God and the hipocracy of the various
churches around the world. I don't let it become personal or childish but it
invariably ends in the religious person having no answer but the old
"Because it is Gods way/wish" or what ever. But that's just me Jay, there
are times when I'll be straight to the point and say I'm not interested
thank you, and adopt the speak to the hand pose. I think they should be
treated like telemarketers. Keep it short and straight to the point, but
give it to them right back, it's your free time and if your like me, they
don't come very often, don't let it be spoiled by misdirected people. If
they stop talking and the silence is awkward, let them know that you won't
be offended if they move to another table.

Scet
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I draw a chalk outline of a body on the front steps and toss religious tracts around it. Works really well at keeping 'em away.
"Sridhar Rajagopal" wrote in message ...
Jay, Jay, Jay! Look at the hornet's nest you have stirred up! Interesting post, and one that I can relate to, except it wasn't in a casino by an airport, but at the front door of my own home! I guess I got a Book of Mormon out of the whole deal (and not much more), so it wasn't so bad! Of course, they were back for a follow up session a few days later, and the chicken that I am, I got my roommate to tell them that I wasn't there (and he told them that he was not interested)! Ah well .....

Reading Scet's post below, I must saw that I thought differently too. I had
seen some of your conservative views (especially after 9/11), and so was all
the
more surprised by your post. I guess conservative, and religious don't
necessarily go in the same sentence! :-) What do you know - you learn
something new everyday!

Which is why we desperately need a third political party in the U.S.. IMHO,
"my" Republican Party -- the "Alex Keaton Conservtive Party" of the 1980s--
has withered and died under the acidic influence of the Religious Right.

Worse, Republicans are no longer fiscally conservative by any stretch of the
imagination.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Amen!
--
Jim Burns III

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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Which is why we desperately need a third political party in the U.S..
IMHO,
"my" Republican Party -- the "Alex Keaton Conservtive Party" of the
1980s--
has withered and died under the acidic influence of the Religious Right.

Worse, Republicans are no longer fiscally conservative by any stretch of
the
imagination.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Reading Scet's post below, I must saw that I thought differently too. I had

seen some of your conservative views (especially after 9/11), and so was all
the

more surprised by your post. I guess conservative, and religious don't

necessarily go in the same sentence! :-) What do you know - you learn
something new everyday!

Which is why we desperately need a third political party in the U.S.. IMHO,
"my" Republican Party -- the "Alex Keaton Conservtive Party" of the 1980s--
has withered and died under the acidic influence of the Religious Right.

We've got a third party already -- The Libertarian Party.
http://www.libertarianism.com/

When I was young and idealistic, I swore I would never vote a straight
party ticket, that I would always vote for or against individuals. Now
that I'm old and cynical, if there's a Libertarian running, I vote for
him/her.

There are still some things about Libertarian philosophy I'm not sure
will work, but I figure if only 90% of what they espouse sounds good to
me, that's way better than the 10% the Republicrats score.

Oh, BTW, growing up in the Bible Belt, I learned early how to deal with
people trying to convert me. My best friend in high school ended up
being a missionary. We used to get into some fine arguments, er,
discussions. He learned more bible verses from me than I learned from
him.

In the end, as adults, he was the one who couldn't handle talking to me
any more. Especially after I said something about starting a "Bikers
for Buddha" club.

--
David Hill, Buddhist
david at hillREMOVETHISfamily.org
Sautee-Nacoochee, GA, USA

filters, they're not just for coffee anymore

"David Hill" wrote in message
...
Jay Honeck wrote:
Reading Scet's post below, I must saw that I thought differently too. I
had

seen some of your conservative views (especially after 9/11), and so was
all
the

more surprised by your post. I guess conservative, and religious don't

necessarily go in the same sentence! :-) What do you know - you learn
something new everyday!

Which is why we desperately need a third political party in the U.S..
IMHO,
"my" Republican Party -- the "Alex Keaton Conservtive Party" of the
1980s--
has withered and died under the acidic influence of the Religious Right.

We've got a third party already -- The Libertarian Party.
http://www.libertarianism.com/

When I was young and idealistic, I swore I would never vote a straight
party ticket, that I would always vote for or against individuals. Now
that I'm old and cynical, if there's a Libertarian running, I vote for
him/her.

Unfortunately, the Libertarian Party comes across as a bunch of overgrown
adolescents, and the anarchist wing really destroys their credibility.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Which is why we desperately need a third political party in the U.S..
IMHO,
"my" Republican Party -- the "Alex Keaton Conservtive Party" of the
1980s--
has withered and died under the acidic influence of the Religious Right.

Worse, Republicans are no longer fiscally conservative by any stretch of
the
imagination.

So it seems. It is looking more and more that they are a single issue
(religion) party. I was reading recently how stock markets always do better
under DEMOCRATIC administrations. Weird, huh? If that is indeed true (and
not due to timing coincidences, etc) then maybe it has to do with
interference with the free marketplace by excessive catering to inefficient
special corporate interests (good for their friends but bad for the economy
in general). But, what are we to do now? Both the Democratic and the
Republican parties have serious shortcomings, yet there is no current viable
alternative. Maybe we should be allowed to vote for more than one party;
that way a new party could be nurtured into existence without unduly
influencing the current balance.

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:06:00 GMT, "Peter Gottlieb"
wrote:

So it seems. It is looking more and more that they are a single issue
(religion) party. I was reading recently how stock markets always do better
under DEMOCRATIC administrations. Weird, huh?

I don't see how that can be useful. Kennedy was the kind of fiscal
Democrat Republicans love to quote about tax cuts. Clinton was much
more of a Centrist, taking credit for the things he liked from his
Republican Congresses. Etc.

And then there's the claim that stock market results lag behind what
presidents do, enabling each party to claim credit or pass blame for
what happens on a president's watch, depending on whether or not the
argument suits them.

Rob

--
[You] don't make your kids P.C.-proof by keeping them
ignorant, you do it by helping them learn how to
educate themselves.

-- Orson Scott Card

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:dGKvb.273791$HS4.2421772@attbi_s01...
Which is why we desperately need a third political party in the U.S..
IMHO,
"my" Republican Party -- the "Alex Keaton Conservtive Party" of the
1980s--
has withered and died under the acidic influence of the Religious Right.

Worse, Republicans are no longer fiscally conservative by any stretch of
the
imagination.

So it seems. It is looking more and more that they are a single issue
(religion) party. I was reading recently how stock markets always do
better
under DEMOCRATIC administrations.

When the stock market crash in 1929 (from 287), how long (under Democratic
administrations) did it take to reacquire that 1929 level? How long until it
achieved the level adjusted for inflation?

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:47:37 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:


Which is why we desperately need a third political party in the U.S.. IMHO,
"my" Republican Party -- the "Alex Keaton Conservtive Party" of the 1980s--
has withered and died under the acidic influence of the Religious Right.

Worse, Republicans are no longer fiscally conservative by any stretch of the
imagination.

Lost to them as they picked up Centrist notions. The Democrats lobbed
their disenchanted over the walls of the Republican fortress.

I'd be in favor of *four* major political parties. One each for the
hard lefties and righties, and two centrist parties who can focus more
or less on term-to-term tactical issues.

Rob

--
[You] don't make your kids P.C.-proof by keeping them
ignorant, you do it by helping them learn how to
educate themselves.

-- Orson Scott Card