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"gatt" wrote in message ... "Don Homuth" wrote in message ... It was a remarkable aircraft without question. Though to be honest, the sound of a RR Merlin 12 roaring by still is The sound of a WW2 warbird to me. The P-51, Spitfire and Hurricane all shared that venerable sound. Indeed. I'm more of an R-1820 Cyclone fan, myself, but I'd really like to hear an original Daimler-Benz in a bf109 someday. The one at Evergreen is considered to priceless to fly (/insure) at this point. I just plain Love to hear it. Unfortunately, the general public has a decreasing appreciation for the old warbirds. Sad thing. There's a Thunderbolt at Tillamook now, though. -c Ever check this out? http://www.warhawkairmuseum.org/index.htm It's just west of Boise. Pretty cool, and usually a genuine vet hanging around the place to tell stories. Nampa airport is right off the freeway. You could follow the freeway all the way if you wanted to zip over for a day. |
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"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message
news:Mx87h.9207$bj1.746@trndny05... Don Homuth wrote: [personality conflict deleted] Ah, the joys of inappropriate cross-posting. Thanks "gatt". Please don't do that again. |
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:48:28 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote: Don Homuth wrote: Sometimes when you get on your Moral High Horse, you're more entertaining than usual, Dosser. And I'm right. As you so oftimes declare yourself to be. You just don't give a **** about people. People come and people go. The aircraft is a loss to History. I doubt you'd have had any objections to firing into a crowd if ordered. What's the crowd doing? What is the threat assessment? |
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Don Homuth wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:48:28 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: Don Homuth wrote: Sometimes when you get on your Moral High Horse, you're more entertaining than usual, Dosser. And I'm right. As you so oftimes declare yourself to be. I am right. You care more about a collection of scrap metal. You just don't give a **** about people. People come and people go. The aircraft is a loss to History. I doubt you'd have had any objections to firing into a crowd if ordered. What's the crowd doing? What is the threat assessment? Nothing that you know, but your superiors say it's OK. |
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:55:10 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote: Don Homuth wrote: On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:48:28 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: Don Homuth wrote: Sometimes when you get on your Moral High Horse, you're more entertaining than usual, Dosser. And I'm right. As you so oftimes declare yourself to be. I am right. You care more about a collection of scrap metal. Nope. I cared about the plane, when it was still intact. The scrap metal is just now so much junk. I doubt you'd have had any objections to firing into a crowd if ordered. What's the crowd doing? What is the threat assessment? Nothing that you know, but your superiors say it's OK. Hardly the case. If I'm firing at a crowd that, for example, coming to lynch you and your family, I'm at the shooting end of the firearms involved. I'd just plain Have to know what the crowd is up to, yes? You, otoh, would make the Fine Moral Distinction, preformed, that since shooting into a crowd is Always morally objectionable, letting the crowd lynch you and your family would be Just Fine with you. See how that works? Circumstances differ, and the ways in which they differ alter the decisions to be taken. Firing into a crowd is Not always morally objectionable. Nor, under some circumstances, would even such a Morally Upstanding person as your own glorious self find it so. |
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Don Homuth wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:55:10 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: Don Homuth wrote: On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:48:28 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: Don Homuth wrote: Sometimes when you get on your Moral High Horse, you're more entertaining than usual, Dosser. And I'm right. As you so oftimes declare yourself to be. I am right. You care more about a collection of scrap metal. Nope. I cared about the plane, when it was still intact. The scrap metal is just now so much junk. It was a collection of scrap metal before it crashed. I doubt you'd have had any objections to firing into a crowd if ordered. What's the crowd doing? What is the threat assessment? Nothing that you know, but your superiors say it's OK. Hardly the case. If I'm firing at a crowd that, for example, coming to lynch you and your family, I'm at the shooting end of the firearms involved. I'd just plain Have to know what the crowd is up to, yes? You, otoh, would make the Fine Moral Distinction, preformed, that since shooting into a crowd is Always morally objectionable, letting the crowd lynch you and your family would be Just Fine with you. See how that works? Circumstances differ, and the ways in which they differ alter the decisions to be taken. Firing into a crowd is Not always morally objectionable. Nor, under some circumstances, would even such a Morally Upstanding person as your own glorious self find it so. DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG? |
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:18:58 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote: Don Homuth wrote: On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:55:10 GMT, Lobby Dosser wrote: I am right. You care more about a collection of scrap metal. Nope. I cared about the plane, when it was still intact. The scrap metal is just now so much junk. It was a collection of scrap metal before it crashed. Strange -- it appeared to be a fully funtional Hawker Hunter. DID YOU OR DIDN'T YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG? Would it be right to fire into a crowd coming to lynch you and your family? |
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"Joetheone" wrote in message nk.net... Ever check this out? http://www.warhawkairmuseum.org/index.htm It's just west of Boise. Pretty cool, and usually a genuine vet hanging around the place to tell stories Nampa airport is right off the freeway. You could follow the freeway all the way if you wanted to zip over for a day. Never heard of it, but I've bookmarked the site. Seems like there were a lot more Warhaws at airshows and around ten or fifteen years ago than there are now. Any r.a.p. guys know how the planes at the USS Alabama museum have fared Katrina cleanup? I saw a photo of what looked like the Mustang, Blackbird et all piled up together like toys in the corner of the building after the stormsurge, which was altogether heartstopping. -c |
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"hal lillywhite" wrote in message ps.com... Well, they went inside and talked with the owner who assured them, "Except for a few parts made in my own machine shop, everything on that car is standard Rolls-Royce parts." As the story goes, the engine was a Merlin, indeed made by RR. *reverent pause* I think I may have read something similar once. Here's one, but apparently the don't know whether it was a Merlin or a Metor. http://www.superjohn.f9.co.uk/thebeast.htm |
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"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message news:4l87h.4486$ZN1.4269@trndny03... The Hawker Hunter is a lovely aircraft, is it not? That one won't be replaced any time soon, certainly. Yep. And your Very First Thought was for the aircraft. What's more important to the average American? The Declaration of Independence or the guard standing near it protecting it with his life? The crash of a rare or unique plane diminishes aviation's physical history. If the Spirit of St. Louis fell off its cables and crushed a tourist standing under it, America would not remember the name of the tourist, but they would remember that the Spirit of St. Louis had fallen from the ceiling. I don't saying so slights the value of the victims lives at all. There's nothing the pilot could have done to save himself but not fly that day. -c |
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